yeah no mods- dropped it to 20%, saved, quit, loaded back in, 100% threat scale again

@Bob Krachit I'll take a look at that later. Is this happening even with no other mods enabled?

It doesn't seem like this mod saves. When I change the settings, save, quit, and load the game again, it's back to the original threat scale.

Also I highly recommend using compressed raid with this, To set a limit of about 300-400 raiders (depending on your system) to avoid crashing your game

I love this mod a lot, I like playing with mods that add new gear/defences but it results in very late game colonies feeling indestructible, And no real challenge with raids. This mod completely fixes that issue! Ain’t nothing scarier than 100 warcaskets charging at you.

This is nice, thank you :)

@Quarter One yes, you can do that. No need to apologize!

Sorry for the dumb question, can this also be used to cap the threat at a lower value, as to make raids easier?

谢谢你
直接给我拉了4000敌人，游戏直接卡死了

Cool, thanks! I wanted the vanilla scaling but infinite and now that wealth can scale infinitely this was both the perfect new addition and the best way to implement it. Thanks! ♥

@BuGGaTon That's a great question! You are correct. The uncapped rate is the same as the final rate between the last two points.

On the Uncapped Wealth Curve what option have you gone for?

Between 14k-400k every $160 s.wealth is worth 1 raid point
Between 400k-700k every $250 s.wealth is worth 1 raid point
Between 700k-1m every $500 s.wealth is worth 1 raid point

Does uncapping leave it at the final rate of $500 per point or does it make adjustments?

@Lucifer This mod does not affect raid frequency. Either you're just getting unlucky or it's caused by a different mod.

Okay so the mod is great and all, but when I have it I get constant raids. Like a raid every day that can range from 5000p up to 25000p and its really hard to actually do anything when I constantly have to battle raiders. Not sure why this would happen or if it's intended. I currently got a raid consisting of 368 pawns from a Anomaly DLC cult.

@Lucifer Raid points are multiplied by your threat scale, yes. That is how it works in vanilla and the mod doesn't change that. In vanilla, there is a 10k cap that is applied near the end of the calculation. The mod has a setting to remove that cap or change the cap to whatever you want. So yes, if you are playing at 100% threat scale and you're getting 10k point raids, changing the threat scale to 200% would then get you 20k point raids, assuming you have removed the vanilla cap or increased it to 20k or higher in the mod settings.

Does this mod multiply the raids threat points my desired threat scale? Soo 200% would make a 10000p raid 20000p? or does it uncap it up to 20000? where 100% is vannilla.

Ooooh, spicy! I'll try it out and report back any issues I find with it, thanks a lot!

@Zuada I have created the option but I haven't published it yet as I haven't yet had the chance to test it in a real playthrough. It'll probably be ready to go in about a week, but if you want to try it out early, it's available on GitHub (you'll have to install it manually): https://github.com/1trickPwnyta/UnlimitedThreatScale/tree/uncappedwealthcurves

How is that idea coming along? Been looking around for a mod that uncaps the wealth factor on raid points for a long time, to no avail so far.

Nice, looking forward to it! Always better to see the difficulty ramping up itself than having to adjust threat scale manually :D

@Power of Nature yes I believe wealth only factors into raid points up to a certain amount of wealth, after which further wealth is not counted. That is vanilla, but I suppose I could add an option to remove that wealth cap as well, so that wealth accumulation will always increase raid points forever. I'll add it to my list of things to do.

Hi there, about the threat scale calculation, I may have understood what that modder meant to say. Basically there's a soft cap on wealth factor in raid point calculation, so after a certain point wealth has very little effect on raid point. My late game colony has almost 30M wealth, and raid point is 'only' around 32000. I tried to increase wealth with devmode, and 500k gold only increased raid point by a few point XD
So in order to get substantially increasing difficulty late game, the threat scale multiplier has to be ramped up a lot more, but it's also not that easy, as ramping up the scale also increase raid point to a ridiculous amount. So it's all vanilla limitation I guess..

@Power of Nature hmmm interesting! Well I'm happy to make changes if there is indeed something wrong.

I was just curious, as this came from a well-knowned modder on that discord server. I just want to make sure it's working right, as I'm using it myself :)

@Power of Nature sorry, changes to threat SCALE calculation, not threat point calculation. I used the wrong word.

@Power of Nature I'm not aware of any change to threat point calculation. As far as I'm aware, 500% has always been a 5x modifier? The mod only replaces the threat points cap of 10,000. But I'm no modding expert, and I'd be curious to know more details about this potential flaw, if you have them.

Someone in a discord group said this:
"unlimited threat scale replaces the threat scale calculation with an older, easier version, so it requires raising the multiplier quite a lot to actually get back to vanilla difficulty with that mod"
May I ask if it's true?

@Stemel It affects most, if not all, events that use threat points for scaling. Heat waves do not use threat points.

does this affect just raids and infestation, or things like heat wave and stuff like that?

Thanks for the great work. I didnt want to try this mod in 1.4 for performance issue. But since 1.5 has done well on optimization, I'll try it with a reasonable cap.

Also your other mod Visible Raid seems unnecessary for I can see the current raid point on vanilla dev mode.

@Farmer Joe Thanks for letting me know! It should be fixed now.

today update ( 1.5.4069 rev95 ) broke this mod patch

cant wait for the rumbling to happen and my colonists instantly die!

I think your Visible Raid Point mod is compatible. I was testing and it doesn't cap at 10000 and seems accurate to the amount of raiders.

@DekaedSioux95 This should be compatible with existing saves. You'd just have to go into the storyteller settings and/or the mod settings and change them to what you want.

just to be clear: NO, to save game compatibility?

@Kara42 The incompatibility is in the threat point breakdown feature. If raid points are uncapped, the mod will not take that into consideration and still say they are capped when they are not.

I did, but that description might be outdated, as are the mods linked on github apparently (at least they only are for up to 1.3 judging from the files).

Did you read the description? Scroll up a bit.

Is this mod in the 1.4 version still incompatible with the visible raid points mod?
I installed both and spawned a few test raids (with the call raid option of vanilla expanded achievments not with dev mode) and I got raids displayed as 22500 points and the number of enemies seemed to match that.

bruh

Threat scale is a direct multiplier on the number of raid points assigned for a raid or other similar event (mechanoid ship, insect infestation, etc). Raid points are tallied from a combination of your number of pawns and wealth, multiplied by the set threat scale, and is used to determine the size of the incoming raid/event.

what does the threat scale --- do? why change it with this mod?

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the only thing I want is so you can use this mod in conjunction with devmode, cause I can still only spawn raids with 10'000 raidpoints

Hello, can you please add a separate option to remove the threat point capping from wealth? because it caps at 4200 raid points at 1M wealth. And just uncapping doesnt increase the threat that much if the colony is too wealthy

For those who haven't noticed: It's now tagged as working with 1.4

(thanks so much for this mod! In conjunction with compressed raiders, this is an essential mod)

1.4?

Anyone knows if it works alright on 1.4?

I have this mod downloaded but inactive, yet Visible Raid Points shows me raids with points over 10,000.