@dnceleets - the buffer zone CB is from my vessels expanded and reworked mod. An empire gets it when the vassal of another empire is bordering them or one of their vassals, so that they can steal the vassal.

not sure if this is your mod or another one so i wanted to ask. A hive mind empire near me has a CB for buffer zone (i know that is not your mod) the thing is we don't have touching borders, but my vassal does. The vassal is between us should they really get the buffer zone CB? i'm not how exactly your mod works, like if you messed with the "shared_borders" or whatever the syntax is and that's why it works that way now so it can't be fixed but to me i wouldn't think this mod would affect that CB since it already only works if you share a border and you can declare war on subjects already.

If this isn't the fault of your mod at all then i apologize, i know this Hive mind having this CB is another mods doing and this could just be an unintended side effect of the two or even just the work of their mod and not yours

Maybe but let's say no to be safe

Works with 3.14?

I actually really love this mod. It mitigates federation/vassal spam without removing those mechanics entirely. I'd recommend this mod to anyone.

@[PIGZ]MrTango - It's one year lol. Definitely would take at least that long to work out the kinks of an intergalactic defense pact.

woof, long delay after continuous borders

@[PIGZ]MrTango - That is already how it works, as stated in the description.

Would be cool if it could be one closed border removed for defensive pacts. Me-Myrival-Myfreind

@Lunatic - Nothing changes. You won't be able to do new things that require shared borders, but no existing relationships will be removed.

This mod improves the game so much. Thank you!

May I ask what happens if you lose the "shared border" status with in ally?

@Allein - That is exactly how it works.

Will do

I was about to report a problem in that I was getting "no shared borders" with someone that I clearly share borders with, until I checked the on_actions file to see that the event that actually gives the shared_borders flag is on a yearly pulse (borders_required.2000). It can be quite frustrating to stare at the neighbor map mode, see that X country IS in fact your neighbor, but be unable to do something with X because 'you are not neighbors with X' and wonder "why isn't this WRB thing working???"

I think you should write in the description that these flags are added specifically on a yearly pulse and not say, a monthly or daily pulse as most players would expect. Perhaps just a small warning at the bottom that the mod updates flags once a year?

Thanks.

The module is not working,AI may join the Federations without restriction

Glad I found this.

@MrFunEGUY russian translate

thanks mate

Updated.

It still works fine

When will this mod be updated to the new update version ??

No, it is not.

hello nice mod, is it achievmt friendly or not?

The issue has been fixed.

@Proud Lemming yeah.. i cant make federation when this mod active..

Not sure if mod incompatibility, however the ask to form a federation button is permanently greyed out with this mod activated.

I just found this thanks to r/Stellaris, haven't even used it yet and already agree with @Astral Terror. Looking forward to using it, thanks MrFunEGUY!

Thank you @Astral Terror; I agree.

Just my opinion that it's essential because it prevents massive vassal and federation swarms. Of course all play styles are different, but I find that to be one of the worst "features" in vanilla Stellaris, total runkiller for me.

Thanks Venatorae for a quick fix. Confused as to why it's necessary, but its whatever.

This is an essential mod, makes diplomacy feel so much better and realistic. Such a simple fix but it does exactly what I want it to (i.e. no more vassal swarms with overlord on other side of the entire galaxy)

Can it be a border connection via Wormhole or Gateway?

Add this to the scripted triggers and it works:

For the regular border check:

any_federation_ally = {
any_system_within_border = {
closest_system = {
limit = {
exists = space_owner
space_owner = {
OR = {
is_same_value = root
is_in_federation_with = root
AND = {
exists = overlord
overlord = { is_same_value = root }
}
}
}
}
use_bypasses = yes
max_steps = 1
}
}
}

For the defense pact/ guarantee border check:

any_federation_ally = {
any_system_within_border = {
closest_system = {
limit = {
exists = space_owner
space_owner = {
OR = {
is_same_value = root
is_in_federation_with = root
is_neighbor_of = from
AND = {
exists = overlord
overlord = { is_same_value = root }
}
}
}
}
use_bypasses = yes
max_steps = 1
}
}
}

Yeah like I said I feel like it may be a PDX issue. Regardless, Ill be away for the summer.

Yo! Same problem than Psykopelle, not my only mod tho

So I looked into it a bit and have no idea why it is broken for federation members right now. The code hasn't changed, and it should be the same. May be a PDX issue, I'm unsure.

It should work for fed members, I'll check that out.

Did some more testing on the same save. If I make my neighbour a vassal instead of a federation member, shared borders between him to the next empire is fulfilled. But still not through him as a simple federation member. Only way I can reach through him to the next empire to try inviting them to the federation would be to make the middle one a vassal. Or maybe waiting for my federation member to ask, who probably has borders. Love the idea for the mod btw.

Hmm an empire is sharing a border connection with my Galactic union member, but it still says we have no shared borders. This is literally my only mod too. Rest seems to be working as intended too.

No problem o7

Thinking it mightve been a mod conflict. This mod doesnt play well with a lot of other mods. Thanks for the report.

Though only vassalization needs shared borders

I found a fix on how to make treaties with other empires again, you have to put this mod at the bottom of your mod load above "!" and "!!" files which then it would load properly and it will work again.

Even though I share borders with empire I cant create treaties.

I only care if it happens when my mod is active when no other mods are active. If that happens, then its my mod. I've just tested with only this mod active, and the problem does not occur. If you guys figure out which mod is causing the conflict, I can look at working it out.

I've been getting the same issue as Puppy Lee on my own games.

I'm fully aware your mod doesn't touch the commercial pacts and Branch Offices in the slightest, however the issue mentioned does not show up when your mod isn't loaded. Only when it is. I've not been able to discern a probable cause as I haven't modded Stellaris before.

Would it help if I provided a full Modlist to see if there's a conflict between your mod and another's that might have caused this?

This mod literally does not touch anything related to that, so it really can't be this mod from what I can tell.

Looking into the subjugation nonsense.

I can't quite figure out why, but while playing a Megacorp, even with a commercial pact and shared borders, when I try to establish a branch office on even the most friendly of empires, there's a red X followed by 'Never'. Only seems to happen when this mod is loaded.

Oddly enough, AI Megacorps appear to be able to establish branch offices just fine.

having a similar issue to others. Subjugation no longer works because, despite surrounding a new empire, I "don't share borders with them"

requires_actor_not_organic_zealots presented in which files?