@ |_| Clyax Mainly because Spring Sifrah is just a workaround for Sifrah, and it is also marked as required.

@Judge Zed why both?

Use Spring Sifrah mod on workshop along with this.

Any talented mod creators to pick this up again for v1.0? Pls for the sake of

Broken Mod

Mod seems to be broken, after the 3 turns are up the game completely stops working.

Is there any chance to post release update?

Wow @_Cell, you amaze! THANKS!

I've uploaded a small hacky mod called "Spring Sifrah" to get Sifrah working in the new UI. It could break with any given game update, but for now it seems to be working seamlessly.

Zed: FYI, https://bitbucket.org/bbucklew/cavesofqud-public-issue-tracker/issues/11886/sifrah-crash-with-beta-sifrah-water

Possibly Chaos is no longer on the team. Or has gotten tired of Sifrah.

I know nothing but my guess is we can for sure expect update sometime after the 1.0 release. its just a downside of the modder being a lead dev, Qud is finally leaving EA so ofc there must be a lot of work that takes priority.

If chaos happens to show up again here, or someone else who knows CoQ modding is willing to help walk me through some of the modding stuff and what has to happen, I might be willing to take over Sifrah. I've been a software engineer for 25 years, so I can probably handle it, but not without a really good intro.

Just found out this is broken as of the last update :( I've played with this for years, I don't know if I can go back to not having it in a play through.

CoQ needs a mini-game to offset rng, its brilliant, it should be part of the base game. Also, I need to play sifrah at least 100 times a day via precog now or I can't sleep, which is fine, but I would also like to try the update someday.

:( borken in sping molden.. . .. pls fix me like mod is very cool

if this is not fixed i will CRY

Please I need this <3 :*

Yeah, it's broken in the new UI. And according to Brian Bucklew on the official bug tracker, 'sifrah is no longer maintained'.

@chaos Any insights?

Doesn't work with the new beta UI, if you try to identify something in your inventory the new UI obscures the sifrah screen and stops you from closing it or doing anything.

In upcoming Spring Molting update, completing a Sifrah water ritual with a legendary being causes an infinite loop somewhere, causing the game to freeze without crash.
Unfortunately Player.log isn't updated during this freeze

Trying to play with this mod via Steam Deck or remote play is very difficult.

Trying to activate reality distorting abilities while wearing nulling equipment quietly fails without cooldown.
Traceback from Player.log: https://pastebin.com/3mucY5cD
Yes, I tried to get ez insight. :V

Okay. I'll be sure to upgrade it outside of item complexity for schematics. Thank you.

Yes, it's helpful in a couple different ways.

Does level of Psychometry affect anything?

The source is currently in the core distribution.

is there anyway to do this myself? i tried finding the .dll for this mod via a dissembler but didn't have much luck with that since either this mod doesn't have a file in the ModAssemblies folder, or it's put together in a way that's very different to most mods that i looked through in that folder.

maybe you can share a git repo with the source?

I don't presently have the ability to do that, no.

seems like my problem comes from mapping inventory to "i" which is the button insight is hardcoded to use. would it be possible to add a key mapping for the insight mechanic just like there is one for haggling?

same question as dorito devito. where is the code for the mod and where does the mod determine the key mappings for it's functions like insight? "I" for INSIGHT isn't working for me, and there's no option to change this in the key mappings.

I'm so confused right now. Where is the code for this mod? It very clearly is working but I'm only seeing the XML files. What is happening to obfuscate the code? I'm looking to integrate it with another mod but not sure where to look.

Is there anything I'm missing regarding the actual guessing game? Or is it just random? Are there hints as to what might be the correct choice, that I'm not picking up?

You aren't. You're attempting a task that is too difficult for you.

Whats up with these games where I get 16 options for 0/6 solutions with only 3 tries? How am I supposed to get them right

I like the mod, but is there a possibility to get a version that restores the functionality of Psychometry and Technoscanners? Or just an option to bypass the minigame when examining if you have one or the other (assuming psychometry is the appropriate level)? The technoscanner/VISAGE was always a priority for me since it identifies items in merchants inventories.

are the descriptions of the various columns significant or just flavor text?

This mod is really cool. I find it causes me to use a lot more tinkering bits than normal, though. I'd like to not need to use so many tinkering bits and other resources on Sifrah, but I'm not sure how that would be accomplished. Maybe make it so that only every other use of a bit in Sifrah consumes a bit? Uncertain.

Thank you

Ahh. No, that isn't one of the things that would be added that way.

Understood. For some reason I just thought that when additional properties are added during modification, then integrated power systems could be among them

As far as I know Jacked is the only thing that adds integrated power systems to anything after creation. I don't know why that would have anything to do with Sifrah.

The fact that I only get integrated power systems when I modding jacked into an item is this as planned?

Edit: In terms of my previous request, if it is done then make better chairs have better bonuses too

Feature request: Can you make sitting in a chair provide a bonus to base success rates in item modding and possibly some of the other functions like haggling?

It would be cool if possession of and proximity to a work bench and all other technological implements / devices (glass printers, lethes, kilns, millstones, waterwheels, various types of power generators) could also have an effect or bonus when being near them.

Could try to put together a nice laboratory.

I personally enjoy invoking ptoh for the sake of befriending certain obnoxious factions, especially with the latest update
what's more, oopsing a ritual with mentioning a controversial entity is a one-time thing, and nothing that a little bookkeeper pen can't fix :)

@chaos What if Invoke Ptoh is an answer to one of the options? Then you are punished for actively ignoring it. Maybe you could make it something where if it is generated to be an answer and you guess it right you don't get penalized for it. This could be explained as the person not ratting you out because they too worship the dark lord and want to keep it on the down low. It would be hard to make sure people don't get punished for it later; one day they worship Ptoh, the next they're screaming "CULTIST!" at the top of their lungs to the entire surrounding populace.

You don't have to use any options you don't want to endure the consequences of. You're perfectly free to take the appearance of an undesirable option as the minigame's way of telling you you're in over your head, not a demand to use the undesirable option.

@Sloth, seconded. It's also pretty ludicrous to invoke a hated, and most likely, highly entropic being, during a ritual of friendship. Also, it can sometimes be *fatal*. I just wanted to be friends with the Elder of Joppa, one of my first acts in the game. And now all these people hate me?

my thoughts exactly, it feels like it's part of the game natively.

this mod is so good and works so well with the game that i forgot it was a mod. thanks to the author