I confirm i still unlock 1 Talith every turn...now 4 waiting to be recruited.

Bring this to WH3 please!

WH3 Please!

Ok, if someone else have this bug, I find a solution:
Step 1: destroy Asuryan temple, which complete quest "Trial by Fire"
Step 2: wait 3-4 turns (quest will started over and over again)
Step 3: build temple once more - you will finished all quests and stopped "Talith machine"
P.s. English not my native language, sorry for any mistakes

Hey all, tried reproducing the talith machine bug with the mod on:
- an existing, older save
- a new save

And I only got 1 Talith in both cases. Could be an edge case that hasn't been considered yet, or a mod conflict

@yeeclaw Yeah, I kept forgetting to remark on it, but I was getting repeat Talith's as well. Amusing at first, but it started getting annoying.

Talith machine go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Thanks for letting me know, I'll put in a fix for it. And yeah, you all can expect this mod to be upgraded to TW:W3 once workshop support and assembly kit are released.

Not a huge deal but thought you should know if you were planning to add this mod to WH3 eventually. The quest for Talith keeps completing and adding another Talith to the lord pool lol. I currently have 15 Taliths waiting to be recruited.

@DiZ_1989 No I didn't use any other Mod to add legendary lords. The only other Mod I was using was to make sure that the Legendary lords that are already there are done together (so the factions they lead are already merged into yours) as it just made the game easier for me instead of trying to go through and recruit all the lords to join me.

Now I did eventually get the quest to pop up (and instantly done), but the quest didn't come into play until almost the very end of my stuff (I think I ended up having to do the Asuryan Invocation 5 times instead of once.)

It does seem to be random. Last time it didn't trigger, it was without any other LL mods except for Mixu's which doesn't conflict. It was fixed after I removed my skill point mod - Tenacious II - and a mod that changes the High Elf Mage's Lileath skill to a global Winds increase. Weird to say the least, and I haven't tested it yet to be certain that it was a conflict and not a glitch. My best advice right now is just save-scumming before that first Invocation of Asuryan to be safe.

If you do include another way to get him, could it not be tied to the Shrine of Asuryan? That way Teclis, Alith Anar, and Imrik have a chance to recruit him as well without the globe trotting.

Love the mod, thanks for it.

@DiZ_1989 - That's a good observation. So far as I know, I'm using the right(or in this case, only) scripting functions to trigger the Trial by Fire quest included in this mod, but there are times when that mission doesn't start (for myself and for the other people that have already commented).

So far though, these instances seem random. And as long as there isn't a clear pattern to this "bug", it's hard to know how to fix it.

That said, Creative Assembly doesn't have any documentation or guidance on how to properly use these scripting functions, instead the modding community has been piecing together documentation through trial and error. So its very possible that there's some caveat or detail not yet documented that is causing all this. I'll consider other ways to recruit Talith in the meantime that stay "loreful", but avoid inconsistent ways such as quest giving and completing

@Xaxas Adun Do you have any other mods that add Legendary Lords to the High Elves? Cause two of them I use - The Dragon Queen and Isandor the Illustrious - keep the mission from dropping. At least, that used to be the case, it's been a long time.

I would love to see an updated version of this,

as I have it running in my game (me, my husband, and one of our friends are all playing different High elf factions, but can't seem to get the quest Trial by Fire unlocked)

Hello,
will you make an update for this nice mod? 🔴

@Reg You've made a lot of great mods, where is the sfo submod for this one

@WISlord oh that’s great to hear! SFO’s Discord Server has the important points you’ll need for a submod. It is in the #submod channel. If you needed help people are also willing to help you there. :)

@Reg: I've been meaning to make an SFO submod myself. Do you know if there's any documentation for modders to start converting their values over? If not I can just learn the knowledge on my own

That’s great! I wanna ask if it’s okay for you that I make a sfo submod for your mod?

Hey all, pushed some improvements to the workshop, check the change notes tab for more info.

As always if you notice any unusual behavior or bugs, feel free to report them here

Any chance you could add a simple skill dump?

Hi! I just wanted to ask if there's any ETA for the for update of this mod?

correction: I did the Rite again and it issured and completed the Talith quest again. Now I have two Taliths sitting in my Anointed of Asuryan tab.

@yeeclaw - then I apologize for reporting an already known bug. I didn't see the other report.

and as for the duplicate Talith issue:
In early game I did the rite of Asuryan, got my first Anointed, then got my, some turns later I got the quest, got my hands on the landmark building required and got my access to my first Talith.
Later, I recruit Talith, build him an army and need another Anointed who is a higher rank than the last, I do rite of Asuryan again and the quest is issued again and subsequently completed giving me another Talith.

Now I did some additional testing and if I do the rite again I get another Talith only if there is no Talith available to recruit, it seems to be checking if I have a Talith sitting there in the lord recruitment menu.

Also shouldn't Talith as a LL be in the Legendary Lord tab and not the Anointed of Asuryan tab?

@TricksterNot - thanks for reporting the phoenix blindness mechanic not working as intended. Someone else reported the same thing a few days ago and Im working on a fix for it currently. Thanks!

Regarding the quest being triggered again, can you provide more context as to the situation? For instance, did you trigger it and complete it, THEN trigger it and complete it a second time? Or trigger it two times, then complete it a second time?

Finally, regarding the duplicate names you saw, there is a pool of names I set up, and the pool is fairly small right now, so there is a chance you'll see two lords with the same name

@yeeclaw - also every time I do the rite of Asuryan the whole quest that gives me the Legendary Lord triggers again and I get to recruit another Talith. And the new generic anointed lord has the same name as the first one I got

@yeeclaw - The Legendary lord's ability that is supposed to give Phoenixes the ability to apply blindness on enemies, actually gives the phoenix units an activated ability that applied blindness on themselves.

@yeeclaw I also installed Cataph High Elves See Patrol, But I turned it off, and still no mission ((( Why is that? What should I do>((

@yeeclaw - there wwere no new mods installed. only this one (

@gevorgval - I used an old save file from before the update with JUST this mod enabled and I was able to successfully trigger the start of the 'Trial by Fire' mission. So I'm inclined to believe it's another mod that is causing compatibility issues.

@everyone - Remember that the mission start is triggered by performing the Invocation of Asuryan rite. So if you have any mods that modify the effects of that invocation, or any mods that modify the Sacred Flame of Asuryan building, that could cause undefined behavior.

@yeeclaw - If you find any bug can you fix it in a way that I shouldn't need ti start a new game to obtain that quest?

@gevorgval - Oh ok, I'll test for this issue by making a new save file with JUST this mod and seeing if it starts as expected.

@yeeclaw May be because of this mod "Legendary High Elven Characters"
I play for Eltharion or Tirion

yeeclaw - the trial of fire doesn't start

@resevikid - yeah that unique landmarks mod might have something to do with it. The trial by fire mission looks for the id representing the sacred flame of asuryan building to see if you have a built, so it that if that id was changed for the base mod, that could be one possible cause.

@gevorgval - which issue are you having?

Dear Yeeclaw - can you do something with bug in Trial by Fire Mission?

Not staring for me either

Yeah, the building mod I was using was keeping the mission from triggering. Here's the mod in case you're interested.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2103482394

I'm wondering if my problem is with a mod I use that adds a bunch of unique landmarks to Ulthuan, including one at the Shrine of Asuryan, because I've encountered this issue in the past, before the update. I'm gonna try a game without the landmark mod and see if that's the cause.

Hey all, tested the mod with the new update on a save file made before the update and it loaded up fine and I didn't any problems. If anyone has any compatibility issues, feel free to post them here with steps to reproduce.

Other than that I've seen you guys report some bugs with the Trial by Fire mission, I'm looking into them now

Is it gonna be savegame compatible?

Any update?

Can you think of a reason the Trial by Fire mission wouldn't proc? I've got no mod conflicts - at least not according to Kaedrin's - and I'm not using any mods that touch missions or quests, so I'm at a loss.

So i found a bug i think. If i do another Rite of Asuryan while having the shrine of Asuryan unique building i can get another Sunstrider. I'm currently have 2 Sunstrider

@Teron_Gore Vow of silence....they are really silent.

Great mod but I think you should add voices to them they are really silent

Beautiful work! It's nice to see one of my fav TT lords in the game.

Now if only would someone would've made a mode with male archmages models 'sigh'. I wanted to remake my guy from my old TT times ever since the game's release but alas.

@Outcast yeah as @Carolus Rex said, Mixu has an excellent implementation of Caradryan in his mod named Mixu's legendary lords 2, so I dont feel the need to do it myself

@Lemonz I dont use SFO myself but I know a lot of folks do, so I'll look into what it takes

@Carolus Rex thats a great UI improvement. To answer your question yeah there is a way to get all the spells from different lores into the same "page", by creating a custom magic lore in the tables and linking the various spells to it

Currently working on another mod, but once that one is finished I'll come back to this one for improvements

This mod is really excellent.

Also would it be possible to put all of Talith's spells on one page during battle, at the moment they you have to switch lores despite there only being 4 spells.

This looks really good, they seem to be good but balanced by rarity giving a point to princes.

@Outcast not the author but Mixu's Legendary Lords mod add's Caradryan, you get him by building the Sacred Flame of Asuryan