you can move some signals on central? They like "stuck" in bridge

Hi! Are there any planned updates for this route?

There's no way to view the map during the simulation, but this feature is planned for the next major update

is there a way to view the map?

The Class 37 mods based on the old Class 37 have a securing pin that you need to raise in order to release the brakes. The default key is B which you need to hold down while also holding down the brake release key. The pin mechanism has been removed from the stock 37 since.

This is a lovely route, probably the best I've ever played! :)
The route is excellent overall, but I have a minor problem with Class 37: I can't move the train brake handle, though I can click the "Watch" button in the driving settings and let the AI operate the brakes, then click "Drive" and the handle works fine.

Whoops where'd that half a month go? Anyway good to hear that you are working on a new project for DRS. Looking forward to seeing it when the time comes.

Hi Armacham. As of right now, and while I would like to do a make over for this or create a similar style route, I do not have concrete plans to upgrade this route for the new DRS; this is because I want to release a new route first (which is a ton of work)... Thank you for the request and appreciation for the route.

Will we possibly be seeing an updated version of the route to clear any visual bugs from scenery update? Would be awesome if so, this is by far one of the best routes ever created in DRS.

The wall across track near High Clif will be fixed in the next patch (it's a bug in the game, not in the route)

Hello 44TZL. This is a very challenging route. I am enjoying slowly getting better scores. I actually got over 9000 on my last run.
Note: when driving service 2T03 City Loop R837 there appears to be a wall across the track when approaching HighClif.

i have here a problem with the 37 and from starting ( not on the route moving at the beginning )
The 37 will start all but not move.... now i have a solution . i make a copy of the timetable and is a not moving 37 on the top i change with the new 31 mod loco

it works ... 31 is a fine machine

closed crossing at beginning with a 03

F420 Supplies RVI - Milham at RVI Mill at the beginning is a closed crossing but the signal bottom behind says free / to go .

ah , yes the time table was the bottom timetable of this route (summer i think ) . the timetable and route are very good ...

The cab controls of the trains used in this route don't have the mouse interaction enabled, so you can't operate them with mouse only

I can't click on anything, only in this route. It only zooms in

What a lovely route! I've only just got back into DRS but very addictive. I really need to start learning the route editor myself.

With reference to my previous comment. The lack of superelevation is between Patton and Patton works. Thanks.

Hi. This is a fantastic route that I am really enjoying. I just wondered if the lack of superelevation around the Patton area is intentional or just an oversight? It is a 60mph limit with some pronounced curves that you have superelevation in other areas with similar curves. Cheers.

I'm rather late to the party, but I've just encountered a problem with 19:14 2T82 Raleigh to Harboard in the Evening Blues timetable, which points to an error in the route between Woldworth and Riverview Yard. The line spacing is too close round the curve, meaning that 2T82 is held at Woldworth for two trains to pass in the other direction.

The correction is reasonably straightforward: remove the two nodes at the Woldworth end of the viaduct on the outer track, and the next node on the same track towards Woldworth. This fixes the tracks being too close together, but it removes the viaduct on that track, and I found it a little tricky to recreate it. I had to remove the nodes on the outer track at the Riverview end of the viaduct as well, and then add back in new nodes at the two viaduct ends.

Curiously, 2T82 worked fine in timetable test run, and I checked that the signalling allowed two trains to pass on the viaduct in timetable editor; it just doesn't allow it in game.

Hi Zeibach. It works for me here, make sure you have downloaded the Class 116 in Rail Blue. It's somehow not listed under 'trains' in the workshop, but it is in the required items list here.

Service 3T00 appears to be broken: there is no DMU to couple to. Digging in a little deeper, it doesn't seem like any of the 116s can spawn.

In a world where everybody parrots the same bs, you are a voice that actually has to say something :) Keep it going buddy.

Hahahahahaha, you just wish i would go away buddy.

Gotcha mate and I always appreciate your inputs!

Would be good buddy and no not route related. Just a general observation of what would be realistic during night time hours. In regards the game in general.

Not really route related but yes I was considering that cab lights. With the current functionality the only way to do it is to have themdisappear based on the direction of travel. Perhaps Oskari can added a 'night'-variable so we can add blinds or add/remove lights at night.

Really nice job as always. 3 things referencing the real world. At night, the blind should be down behind the driver and the cab light off. If not the drivers external view is compromised, in regards signal visibility. Particularly in regards semaphore signalling. Also with the cab light off there needs to be a function for the instruments to be illuminated. All to do with the core game i guess. So i would like to see them addressed at some point.

Happy to say that 3T48 is now working. Managed to do the whole route. Thanks for the quick replies and fixes @44TZL

@Mad Chilli: 3T48 will work now - I've made some more changes and checked both the preview and in-game. Just make sure steam has updated this route to about the time of this comment.

3T48 is still broken. I got stuck at the same signal again (it was a different route though as I went through a different platform at Harbord Central). I noticed all the further signals were green though so is there a way for the signaller to allow you to pass the signal at danger?

Great thanks for the quick fix.

I've made a small update to solve some of the routing issues.
@Mad Chilli: I found a workaround for 3T48 so it no longer gets blocked
@Jefried: It is not perfect but the CW no longer goes over the siding at Millham Station.

I noticed 3T48 (evening blues timetable) seems to get stuck at the signal just after central station. I waited till 21.40 and it stayed red and Ai trains in the area also seemed stuck. I am on the latest beta of the game. Also, thanks for making and updating this map. An excellent addition to this game.

Classifying tracks as "goods" or "siding" might be a good idea, I'll have to think about it

The latest beta should fix some of the routing issues again. I noticed one of the city loop (left?) services has a zero train length so it won't start. In the older timetable the stop at Harbord West for the city loop left services is set to the shorter stop specifically which is why some of the services in that template won't find a path

One solution I have previous proposed was to mark tracks as 'goods' or 'sidings' which should be avoided between passenger stops, unless there is no alternative. This would be quite similar how there were 'up goods' and 'down goods' where normally no passenger traffic would be routed to.

Still a few issues to sort out. I have a separate testing tool that attempts to run each of the services so it's fairly easy (if time-consuming) to find out the problem services

Right, after watching muliple services (L749, L819 and L919 on Evening Blues timetable), I can confirm that other pathing issue. I't not that munch of a big deal, even the AI manages to arrive on time at Central (at least on the runs I did). There are plenty of other services to drive so don't feel in a hurry for fixing this :-)

Ok, I'm a bit embarrased to say that, but it seem that 2T04 services have another pathing issue at Millham yard. I'm sorry I haven't reported it earlier.
I don't know if this issue is one of those pathfinding bugs Lapioware mentionned or if their're just a mistake but I should have driven the entire service before posting any comment about this and I would like to apologisze for my lack of diligence.

Now we're able to enjoy our stopping services wihout being delayed by an incompetent signalman, thanks for fixing the issues ^^

@44tzl Zuletzt aktualisiert am 29. Aug. um 3:26 , i have the newest version , but i found the 20:01 not .. but is ok i waiting and play another train :-)

Thx

Hi Cali. Sorry I get you now. Yes the first signal to the left, after the platform, is for Track 3 - ignore that. It's the 2nd signal directly on the track that is for you when going over Dulwich Track 4.
As for the 20:01 scenario, make sure you have the latest version (29 August). Sometimes it takes a couple of hours for steam to update across the world.

@44TZL sorry but i find no 20.01 Timetable Train ( both Timetables at this route ) .

@44TZL ok, thx for the information . The Signal has me worried at the ic 850 , i have two signals at my left side ^^ .
I love freight trains and shunting. ( little shunting , more running freight trains ^^ )

Can you make the signal over the track on the left side from track 2 ? Hanging on the roof of the platform 2/ 3 ?

* go to the timetable for 20.01 to play now ^^ *

Jefried - I fixed the running over the yard and another routing issue. Cali - yes I put the signal on the right side because there's just not enough space on the left. It's intentional. For people who love shunting - I've added a complex scenario at 20:01 that picks up empties and runs them to the other side over the riverview yards.

at the new timetable route - ic 850 - at station Dulwich Track 4 , the second track from the station to the right , the signal was on the platform at right side ^^ . The third track from the station to the right is my track for the train and the signal was ok.

thx for the route

The current beta version has a few pathfinding bugs. Fixing them soon...

Thanks Jefried. The DRS routing behaviour is tricky and changes as other changes are made in the timetable but I'll have a look at this weekend.

Very nice route, espacially the new BR blue era timetable but I noticed that on this timetable, all clockwise city loop services (2T04) were routed via a yard when departing from Central, is it normal ? Otherwise, the rest is nice and it's my favorite route.

@44TZL okey , rolling stock of the region is a good argument .
I hope another Modder take this tiny Bus in a timetable and route