still working in 3 for me, didn't notice any bugs present

i found this https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340211879 ,a 2.8.1 version

Is it working in 2.8?

Never mind my previous comment I just wasn't getting the tech to drop even with the instant research cheat lol.

The mod battleship carrier core and stern both have more utility slots than the base game sections (6 for mod core section vs 3 for base game, 2 for mod stern vs 0 for base stern). I'm guessing this is an oversight?

Have you considered making this compatible with NSC2?

Hello, can you improve the combat computer, that is, don't let it rush up, but lock the enemy ship and stop for a long distance?

Like with most mods, unless Paradox has something drastic, this is still *functional*. It may not play nicely with multiplayer, and I just need to make time to update versioning info and address various issues with the other mods.

please disregard my question. I answered my own question a few moments ago when I was curious. it's already compatible; I ignored the warning and it was still functional.

Well I hope its compatible with 2.7

will this become compatible with 2.7?

Seems like the fighters completely ignore other enemy fighters....which is pretty annoying. Other than that, I love it so far!

where is carrier radar and computer? AI is using but i can't find this components

Could we get some missile, torpedo, or mass driver strike craft?
The options for ballistic/missile focused empires is a little restricted with only AC craft.

Can this be added to a save game?

for me it was the combat computer. the radar was fine being removed since it was an optional slot and not a core slot

I also pushed out a quick update that re-added the components while class-restricting them to outposts (which they'll never be used in) with a weight of 0. This should allow existing saves to load, but the components unable to be selected.

Make a new class, had this bug myself. It'll cost a few alloys and some time to upgrade the ships to the new class of carrier but that's better than sticking around.

D: I'll see about adding back in the component but putting it behind an unresearchable tech or something. The computer or the radar, specifically?

i think this broke my carriers because the targeting system is not selectable. (save game)

(That behavior is also applicable to vanilla strike craft)

It is redundant. Advanced Weapons strike craft and, prior to this update, CI strike craft don't engage outside a 300 range anyway. Having them sit at 400 results in said carriers not actually deploying their strike craft. The vanilla carrier control modules have a base of 150 range, but they scale with technology, increasing to a max of 300 at Autonomous level. Forcing your carriers to park at a further range than strike craft will deploy is more detrimental than not.

Can you bring back the carrier radar please. I use it with the NSC AI computer for max range. It isn't redundant.

Kiithnaras, could you bring back the submod which was just the strikecraft? I loved using the new fighters standalone =)

I think it might. The only new battleships I've seen the AI build are the ones dubbed 'Advanced Carrier IV'.
Which is kinda frustrating, but understandable due to how OP those carrier ships are, and how dumb the AI is a lot of the time.

Do the AI still build only carriers with this mod? I remember that there was such an issue.

Can this mod be use on multiplayer? (Idk if anyone already ask or not)

thanks for updating these awesome mods

Thanks for all of the work on this. Pretty disappointed that carriers are currently unfeasible.

You need to research the tech first.

Update: The carrier computers are with the combat computers... I was looking for carrier radar for a PD slot.

I don't think this mod is working as i have loaded into my game an in ship designer the techs are missing

I researched the carrier radar but its not available when I try to design a carrier :(

Yeah, I'll be looking into potentially more advanced "picket" strike craft for anti-strike and anti-missile duty as well as reworking and assessing the computers the mod adds for redundancy. The 250 range computer does seem valuable for battleship and titan carriers, but they do need a rework.

Lastly, this mod still retains the old problem from the original: namely, there are no 'Autonomous Ship Intellect' carrier computers, meaning Machine Gestalt Consciousness empires can't use the best carrier computer.

Are the carrier computers really necessary given that they're now a vanilla thing?

Those still exist IIRC - scout wings.

So wait does this re-add fighters which use to be able to shoot down missiles and other strike craft?

looks amazing! gotta try this right away

It is indeed a thing that would require a lot of testing and working, so you can just let go of this(your mod, your rule), but i hope this gets fixed so carriers wouldnt become obsolete late game.

Thx for all the hard work anyway!

Maybe adding 25(or insert any random numbers) more tiers of strike craft which does the same thing as others 100 repeatable techs?
It will only add to vanilla tech, which will make compatiblity issues minimum(tho i dont know much about modding so can be wrong). You can even buff strike craft hp with this solution since strike craft doesnt seem to get benefit from armor or shield tech(also can be wrong, but i've seen SCs being killed in droves even when i've done all repeatable tech upgrade via console).

Yeah, that sounds like something that requires additional testing to really suss out if the displays are lying about actual output and is slightly beyond the scope of this mod. I'd need to go dig into and modify vanilla techs and cause a host of incompatibility issues to fix that. It's...possible, but a bit hairy.

@kjm1066 Actually someone tested that on the Stellaris reddit and it's somewhat fixed, the fire rate tech works but not the fire damage tech

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/fll61a/strikecraft_bug_testing_numbers/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/dtewvx/psa_strikecraft_even_more_bugged_than_previously/
This was a known bug from some time ago, but Paradox aren't doing anything about it. Although there are many things that Paradox turn a blind eye on, so not really special or anything.
I just hoped with the Juggernaut update they would finally fix it, but no, I am not sure they are even aware of this.

No, they didn't change anything from the previous version. It says they do(in text they seem to go up), but in reality they don't. Just try using console to upgrade repeatable tech, they will fall behind massively as tech increases.

Strike craft do receive bonuses from repeatable techs. This is a limitation of Paradox's displays. If you inspect a ship actually in the field, it will have the appropriate total DPS after all technology bonuses. This is the case for all weapons and is not exclusive to strike craft.

Strike Crafts still dont get bonuses from repeatable tech upgrades(in text they do, but not in reality. Just like previous versions). Any plan on fixing it? Like adding techs?

thx u for up date

How does this work with 2.6? I thought they already added computers that do this thing?

yah, I'm also up for the 250 range carrier computer, maybe better a 200 one for "normal" ships and a 250 one for Juggernaut, would be very nice. (or you could add a menue where we can change that, if that is possible xD)