Well, this mod's description doesn't mention that one for a reason. Plus, the other mod says the two do not require one another. Happy gaming

I honestly don't know if we are supposed to load this mod WITH Native Affinity or just have "NA" in order to have all these changes with FCF

So are we supposed to bundle this with NA or not? NA still says you can use it with this together!

Had to get rid of tempest capacities since they don't work on land.

A suggestion, the settlers should also get bonuses too right? I noticed the Drakken settler unit doesn't have ash breather.

Does it work for ELCP?

Oh, it's all bundled in there now as well?

Don't use this mod just use Native Affinity instead.

For mod load order I used your mod collection with this mod in it as linked on this page.

After some testing, I think it's the same issue wendigo101 had a few months ago resurfacing, perhaps due to new ELCP version?

The following factions have issues:

Morgawr - No Mastermind design, no Militia in City
Cultists - No Preacher design, no Militia in City
Broken Lords - Double Settler and Stalwart designs
Ardent Mages - Double Warlock designs

Yeah this mod is not designed for FCF

Seems to be a conflict with FCF and Citylords, if I just enable the mod by itself, these issues are not present.

The issues are also not present if Native Affinity is enabled as well.

Cultists can't train preachers and their city has 0 militias.

Broken lords also have two different copies of Settler and Stalwart as units.

Writing here to confirm the fix for Ardent Mages not being able to hire Telsem Warlocks. Thanks!

Fixed

They also didn't have City Guard 3, I think.

Don't know if it's related, but Vaulters (maybe Mezari too?) cannot build Marines. Haven't checked any other races out yet.

I'll check tomorrow

(just wanted to chime in to add that this is pretty awesome all-around)

Bug Report: (note that I isolated this by disabling ALL other mods):

Ardent Mages can't build Telsem Warlocks. At all. :(

Also two things:
- the two Telsem Warlocks you start with do have turtle, as intended earlier in this thread, but don't have "rising fire".
- militia don't have "rising fire", which was perhaps a goal of this mod? The militia are appearing, though.

Multiplayer versions make minimal changes with a focus on balance over "what sounds cool."

How does this mod compare to your other mod, Major Faction Unit Adjustments for Multiplayer? Is the other one just a sort of "Lite" version of this one, or is there any other reason why it has less features than this one? Also, which of the two would be best to use in conjunction with the ELCP (in terms of balance)?

super fixed

And fixed! Woot!

@Iceberg Bad news...I just started a new game and the first Vaulter city I encountered had zero militia. Now that I think about it, one of the factions in my last game was wiped out in the first few turns and I remember wondering how that was even possible. No militia would explain it... Maybe check through all the factions and make sure they are spawning militia?

@Corrupted Slime Yes, it is.

Thanks for the fast action!

Question: Is this mod compatible with ELCP?

Fixed (again)

I like this mod a lot, but it has a pretty crippling bug for the Morgawr...they spawn zero militia in their cities. A fix would be much appreciated!

Let's switch this to Discord xD

auriga affinity oh lol sure why not

I'm open to suggestions regarding the kassai unit, if you have any in mind.

I can't answer every suggestion you've made because the explanations as to why get longer than the suggestions themselves but suffice to say I have a big picture design about how different factions and units should be working and how they all compare so things like giving mysts winter movement immunity aren't on my agenda.

Interesting... I just pointed out a flaw with the mod that initially made me not want to try it when I saw it.

your loss

Native Affinity has at least 5 different unit types that have Unstoppable and there are a ton of duplicate units, though. I'm just trying to get all units to be worth using, and Skyfins, for instance, are something Allayi need to function.

You should really try native affinity. The skyfin has shifting awe 3 in that mod. Power levels are higher in general.

Also, that's fair about Turtle.

While you're at it, could you consider some of the other things I recommended based on my testing?

+50% defense after being attacked is actually pretty sweet for them. I wanted forcefield to work cuz it sounded cool but whatever. Think of it like a reactive forcefield that activates when they experience pain.

Btw it actually works and forcefield doesn't. No I can't fix it.

"No defense" well that's an overstatement. They have some defense. They start with 20. It's low, but it increases with level. This is less thematic (forcefield on a battlemage sounded cooler than turtle) but more balanced and basically more effective over the course of the game cuz you get to take damage first and then have a better chance of surviving subsequent attacks, synergizing with ardent fire better.

So there's no way to fix it? And isn't Turtle both a naval capacity AND bad on them because they have no base defense?

Yeah it doesn't work so I gave them turtle instead.

Yeah, ancients are crazy

That's good, and yeah, it doesn't seem like it works. Is there a way to fix that? They would be solid and worth building if it did.

ancients are insanely strong for support units

Militia's fixed. Forcefield lol naval ability doesn't work on land eh?

I've now confirmed Forcefield doesn't work whatsoever on Telsem Warlocks.