Thanks for reply! Nice mod by the way. =)

@adidasSlav That mod makes changes in some of the same places as this mod, so it's impossible to make them fully compatible. That said, this mod also adds more corinthian helemts (Picked Hoplites get corinthian helmets). You could try to activate both mods in the mod manager, but place the corinthian helmet mod above this mod, which should give you more corinthian helmets+beards on archers, slingers etc.

Can you make this mod compatible with this mod: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1515944364&searchtext=corinthian ?

I like how people assume that to admire the soul automatically means that there is any sort of physical affection.

I mentioned Xenophon alongside Plutarch and Aelian, because Xenophon's description fits with the others: That "If someone, being himself an honest man, admired a boy's soul and tried to make of him an 'ideal friend' without reproach and to associate with him, he [Lycurgus] approved, and believed in the excellence of this kind of training." This form of 'training' was 'approved' so long as the 'connection' was not simply based on physical lust (which would be an abomination). This emphasises (like Aelian) that the man was meant to be a supervisor, trainer and educator to his younger friend. Socrates held a similar view on pederasty, and it's possible that this was a common opinion.

peace

I get nobody wants to be wrong on the internet, but dude.... c'mon
You quote Plutarch, a man who lived HUNDREDS of years after Sparta... and I don't know Aelian, but I'm assuming by that name he's also a Roman. Also those lines read like random stories, nothing specific in regards to structure really.

I quoted Lycurgus FOUNDER OF SPARTA, and Xenophon who was SOLDIER/CITIZEN OF SPARTA (during it's height)

So according to your logic, yea let's ignore the source directly and men who actually lived in that time and that world, fck all that and let's listen to men who came HUNDREDS of years after, and aren't even from there...
i'm done, bye

Aelian (Various History): "Indeed, the kindness of those who love, if indeed deserves to be respected, is a powerful stimulus to excite the beloved's virtue. A Spartan law even ordered to pardon a young man, for his youth and inexperience, the mistakes he committed, and to punish in its place the citizen who loved him, to teach him to be the supervisor and judge of the actions of his friend."
Plutarch (Parallel Lives, Life of Lycurgus): "The boys' lovers also shared with them in their honour or disgrace; and it is said that one of them was once fined by the magistrates because his favourite boy had let an ungenerous cry escape him while he was fighting."

Now of course being ancient Greece, gayness did occur everywhere including Sparta I'm sure, so I'm not obliviously defending anybody here, only presenting historical fact because they had actual rules against it from day one by the man Lycurgus who was their law giver and laid out their creed.

Anything not conducive to the Spartan state was not to be practised, Spartans were basically control freaks.... If anything, the real joke on them and one that is actually is true, since they actually didn't go to war often, and they didn't have to work the fields (slaves did that) is that they actually had plenty of time to bang their wives and produce plenty of male heirs... but they didn't, their state lacked manpower from day one..

anyway thanks for the mod

I agree Spartan training was a scrappy affair, it is well known, anyone with basic knowledge on them would agree with you.... As for the open pederasty in Sparta, once again, WHERE are you getting your info from? hearsay? low quality YouTube vids ?
Here is a DIRECT quote from Xenophon on the subject from an excerpt about Spartan training, and I'm LITERALLY quoting his own words here... he himself quotes Lycurgus, the man who created Sparta and it's law as they and we know it.

"If someone admired a boy's soul and tried to make him an ideal friend/soldier it is approved, BUT if it is clear the attraction lay in the boy's outward beauty Lycurgus banned the connection as an ABOMINATION, and thus they were to abstain from boy lovers no less than parents abstain from intercourse with their children, and brothers and sisters with each other... I am not surprised however that people refuse to believe this, for in many (greek) states the laws are not opposed to this"

@Iolaus I've never heard a professor say that the spartans had a crustpunk lifestyle. It was a joke, as you can tell. The "unwashed" part is just a reference to spartan training, where they would be deprived of food, washing, and shelter, to prepare them for the unwashed and underfed misery of campaigning. I didn't make any gay joke, and I don't think that combing hair is homoerotic. But the spartans did have legal pederasty, like the other greek states. Xenophon and Plutach both write that spartan boys were available to older men, and Aelian writes that, under spartan law, a spartan man could receive a punishment in place of the boy he loved.

@Cell Tv Yeah I tried using the greek beards, but sadly they are very buggy. During facial animations they stretch and detach from the face, which is silly-looking and noticeable during replays. In the vanilla game, eastern beards are used on Royal Spartans. They are a bug-free asset, and look great, so I used them in stead.

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"What you believe about this is the opposite of the truth, the Spartans are making their final preparations as they mean to enter the afterlife in an orderly state"

meaning they want to look as good as fckin possible before fighting ferociously to their deaths.... the story ends there, but I'm pretty sure the Persian laughter ended just the same as well..

Where the hell are you getting your history info from, your high school brofessor ?

Spartan's actually took great care of their daily appearance, and kicked it up a notch during military campaigns, they would LITERALLY comb each other's hair before battles, it was a ritual for them... HomoErotic? yes.... but filthy.... hell no (the gay joke is funnier when you consider Sparta was probably the only Greek state where pederasty was illegal)

There's a well known story of a Persian spy bringing back news to his King of the Spartan camp the night before battle, he says to his King... (and I paraphrase here, not exact quotes)

"The Spartans are in their camp acting like women, dancing and playing with their hair, tomorrow should be an easy victory"

All the Persian men there laughed, except one Greek mercenary who obviously knew the Spartan ways, he then said to the Persians...

Nice, but i think that you need to use the greek beards, no te easter ones

I love that you said the Spartans had a crust punk lifestyle. Had me rollin