BROTHER! ITS BEEN TOO LONG

Just a suggestion, could you make the haven trooper's models the same as the stealth operative, just without the shield.

Cannot build sea units

Outer Heaven is the name of the organization. Outer Haven is the name of the vessel which was its base. This is reflected in the name of the capital.

Its Outer Haven, not Heaven.

Quick advice for other users, if you start in a later era, don't use the extra settlers, as their cities will not have the special buildings.

Alright, Thanks for the answer. Other than no unique models this civ is pretty good and fun to play as.

Oh and you're also pretty good at making modded civs.

@Hammersmith
Not a bug, just that I have only relatively recently gotten competent at importing 3D models to the game. Might see MGS4 model imports for this one, but it will be a long time before I update this one again; it's in my bottom 3 favorite Civs I've ever made :/

Found a bug, the PMC Incorportator and haven trooper uses the Great General and XCOM models. Is this intended?

@shawnlewis52
Not by itself, BNW is required for all of my Civs with the exception of the shitty old version of the MSF that I wish people would stop subscribing to.

Is this compatable with G&K?

PMCIs are being given the Settler AI in the SQL, so unless there are some goofy exceptions in the code (always a possibility), they should be working normally. I'll take a look when I get a chance.

@TTT is pathetic
I've tried 2 games with an AI using this civ and I've never seen them settle a second city, even when they've had 2 PMC Incorporators.

Does the A.I. use this effectively? It seems the kind of thing that would fly over it's head.

@Vice Virtuoso
I am, and after some messing around I think I found out the problem being the Community Patch. Problem stopped after I disabled that.

@Drakmorg
Are you running any other mods?

I really like this Civ, but I'm having trouble trying to play it. Any time I try and use a PMCI to found a city, the game immediately crashes without any error notification.

Thanks, just wanted to check.

@foot powder spraaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Yes, you get one like how Venice gets a Merchant of Venice instead of a Settler.

Do you get PMCIs when you adopt Collective Rule?

@dominickane
PMCIs are considered part of the Great General unit class, but they have been given the Settler's AI instead of the Great General's AI.

Are PMC Incorporators still classified as great general types, rather than settler types? If so, it would explain why the AI never seems to use them, as well as why they aren't capturable.

Yeah it works now it was a mod conflict

I will check to see that is probably what it was I was playing with another mod and did not know it-on the other hand when I played as naked snake the first person I found was liquid......*Encounter plays*

@cnorton11
Possible mod conflict. Are you running other mods?

Hey the actions are garbled up on mine like for settler airlift=settle and other things or are they supposed to be like that.

@Vice Virtuoso
Hi can I still get the v2 of this? Steam update somehow makes every mod in my game to disappear and I resubscribed and I can't load my save files..

@Lead Donor
I'll see what I can do about it sometime soon.

The cities still dissapear

This is awesome, goes well with the MSF Civilization mod...

This is amazing

Thank you!

@HingleMcCringleBerry
If that's the case, then it may have something to do with the script that increases city population and gives it a Barracks. I'll see if I can find a way around it in the next update.

Exactly

@HingleMcCringleBerry
So the cities are still functional, just without any 3D graphics being rendered for them?

Not to sound like an ass, but this literaly happens in all save files. Dont get me wrong I can still play as the civ no problem, it is just that the models for the citys are missing a turn after they are founded, and any city I capture, the model for the city dissapears a turn after.

@HingleMcCringleBerry
Can you post a save file in which this happens?

I absolutely love this civ but I have 1 problem with it. Why is it that everytime I start out with liquids civ, and use the settler i start out with, the city completely dissapears?

Any chance of a philanthropy Civ with Otacon as leader and with Snake as a unit?

I love both your MSF and Outer Heaven mods, and I'm seriously looking forward to your Revengeance civ. Is there any chance you'd look at Solidus's America and Vogin's Russia for additional civs?

This is VERY creative, just like your MSF Civ! I am impressed!

@Thomas
Sorry for the very delayed response. School and work have been killing me.
A DDL has been added to the description.

In other news, that soundtrack is still coming, eventually...right now, I've got major updates to my Madoka civs I need to finish first. Once finals are over in two weeks, I'll finally have time to really devote to modding again.

Hey, can we get direct download links for us forgotten mac users?

@mikeisbored
Extended soundtrack is coming sometime, but it might take a bit. A lot of the good battle themes from MGS4 need to be extended from their soundtrack versions, so it's not a simple zip-and-upload job. Plus, I'm working on an update for my other mods that might take a while itself.

Just want to say i love what you did with this and the MSF civ. Will you be making a soundtrack and another update for this civ vice?

Nice , like mgs

@Vice Virtuoso
Okay, I was wanting to make sure. It is good that you are ready for changes like the Fall Patch made so. I just wanted to make sure, Thank You.

@thefolkstr
Every mod I've made is compatible with the fall patch. In fact, I was making them ready for it since the public beta of the patch was open, since the biggest complaint about my mods by far was the difficulty of installing the custom music. I was far more than ready to make it easier on everyone.

@Vice Virtuoso
I have not tried THIS mod yet but I am wondering about your prevoius mods that came out (Mainly the Saber mod, which is absolutly great, that is for a different time.) you see there is this bug that ouccred post patch of 'This mod is not compatiable with this versoin of the game." and want to get in contact with a couple of modders that i am following and using there mods so. You see what i am saying, i will have to check all my mods for compatiblity issues.

Also the gecko unit would be a great replacer and uu for this race, considering the Gecko is the standard sub MG unit at his disposal.