XCOM 2
[WOTC]Avatars as faithful to the Canon
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Is there a playable version of this character? I am not talking about the commander's avatar, which is sadly only in the final mission, but I'm referring to a sort of unit you can create in the proving ground.
I was thinking more as a sort of ultimate form of the psi operator.
General Skywalker 27 Apr @ 7:33am 
Does it work with Avatar buff ?
Tomoko 25 Dec, 2023 @ 7:09am 
Mother of heck his mass mind control made 2 of my squads instantly captured
M0NSTER 18 Sep, 2023 @ 10:02am 
Had the Psi Damage Feedback Perk, Avatar Mass Mind Control no longer became a problem, especially with larger squad sizes.
Arkay 4 Oct, 2022 @ 7:11am 
This looks genuinely amazing. Have you, or anyone else, tested this with the LWOTC release and its ModJam?

Well, I just tested this alongside "Avatar Buffs mod", and while I've always been of the opinion that Ruler Reactions need to be a conflip and not a guarantee...

This turned out amazing. It was horrible, as a reaction all my Alpha-team squad got mind-controlled and when my 2 SPARKS managed to hit the Avatar, it reflected the shot before peacing out. Its definitely a Kobayashi Maru, but if you mix your XCOM 2 with other mods, then you might have a small chance.
Fedora the Explorer 14 Aug, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
You absolute madman, this has to be one of the hardest enemies on the workshop. I think the only thing I would change is the sustain. For an enemy that can heal as efficiently as this Avatar, let alone fully recover with one soulfire, giving it sustain is just unfair imo. I would either disable it entirely, or make it so you can't execute the Avatar instead. If there's a way to do that in the inis, that would be cool.
Zaku II (Alias WatcherZigzagoon) 3 May, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
oh... my god... this thing is practically UNSTOPPABLE! The soul stealing is bad enough, but the FIELD MIND CONTROL?! FFS MAN! YOU CAN'T EVEN GET PAST THE RESISTANCE OPERATIONS FROM TLE WITH THIS THING ON! IT'S SO FRUSTRATING!

And yet...

it makes the Chosen look like child's Play... Which is the purpose of this mod... I'm rather okay with this.
0inArrow 18 Nov, 2021 @ 10:06pm 
Does anyone know where i can find the ability files, i wanna turn off the mass mind control feature
M0NSTER 18 Nov, 2021 @ 5:41pm 
● For balance, I've given a similar bonus to the 'Commander's Avatar' - your avatar will now know all the psionic skills of the Psi operator.
☠ΩVesta's Fume KnightΩ☠ 14 Jun, 2021 @ 6:59pm 
Is there a chance to have a playable version of this unit? With all those effects and skills?
Brain_is_Back 14 Feb, 2021 @ 2:48am 
AND EVEN HAVE KOREAN Localization. NICE.
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Brain_is_Back 14 Feb, 2021 @ 2:47am 
MORE STRONG AVATAR! NICE!
Seraphim Sword 5 Dec, 2020 @ 4:54pm 
What MagnumiceC said. Every single word!!!
MagnumiceC 15 Sep, 2020 @ 11:24am 
This thing is just so damn broken. I had to fight it thrice before I could kill it. It’s soul steal ability is the true OP part of it. Six times, I’ve pushed it to the brink. Six times, it killed one of my soldiers and came back at full HP. It survived all the usual cheeses, like a 7-shot superior repeater banish, or a fanfire with AP rounds. This monster has personally buried 10 of my soldiers and killed another 6 by triggering pods with its teleportation. I’ve fought alien rulers, chosen and normal avatars, sometimes together, and even they have never racked up such a kill streak.

This is the true avatar. A monster capable of soloing entire squads of colonels and winning.

Hats off to the author for the challenge.
Ludwig, Shadow Protogen 1 Jul, 2020 @ 4:28am 
*puts in Early Avatar Deployment sitrep*
Guess I'll try to cheese those bosses
Gagi72 7 May, 2020 @ 4:02am 
This work with Corrupt Avatar or not ?
M0NSTER 1 Apr, 2020 @ 7:53pm 
This mod works fine, just not compatible with avatar buffs mod.
Cody Bayliss 28 Feb, 2020 @ 6:49am 
Could you please update/bugfix this? It sounds awesome.
Franimus 12 Jan, 2020 @ 9:01pm 
1) One of my psionics with Solace got mind controlled by this bugger. (A second psion with solace coming up to that soldier rescued him, though. And he was able to rescue others after regaining control.)
2) Didn't lose my control of that soldier's dominated advent trooper.
3) Not sure if I miscounted or what, but I thought I saw some of my mind controlled soldiers taking 3-4 actions against me during the alien turn.

Also, how do I tone this down by making the reaction happen only some of the time, and maybe removing the mass mind control?
Stormie 9 Jan, 2020 @ 7:13pm 
- Commander's Avatar skill cooldown is rather fucky comparing to the alien's. I often park the Commander in front of the aliens to proc ruler reactions on their turn, however the skill cooldown only ticks down per xcom turn, unlike the alien's Avatar which has his skill ticks down every ruler reaction.
- The rest of the buffs are rather fun and challenging, since it hard counters Reapers and stealth troops. Made me gasp when I first witnessed that Mass MC!

If I can suggest a couple of changes, aside from looking into the wonky cooldown, I'd say make it so people can customize Avatar's strength trait in the ini, mainly to deal with the buggy Soulstealer strength. That or just remove it while keeping SoulSteal thru Soulfire as a means for Avatar to lifesteal.
Stormie 9 Jan, 2020 @ 7:13pm 
Not sure if the author is still maintaining the mod, but after finishing my campaign and faced the trio Avatar with this mod, I have a couple of thoughts:

- Soulstealer is broken since it also applies to the Commander's Avatar while keeping the default mechanic (healing target upon xcom taking dmg). Therefore, the moment the Commander takes any damage, it counts as xcom taking dmg and "lifesteal" all that dmg into hp, thus making him immortal.
- Perhaps the Soulstealer mechanic in general was never balanced for Beta Strike, because it makes it almost impossible to wittle down Avatar unless you setup 1-shot kill traps (alpha striking Beta Strike) like Banish with superior expanded mags, Whiplash + any free AP skill + Retribution/Bladestorm proc, Dual strike with bondmate, etc.
onestrongbow GocleCD 12 Oct, 2019 @ 5:27am 
juste faced my first avatar on super hardcore campaigne XD well i beleve i just lost 60h campaigne because of one avatar XD
Syro System 5 Aug, 2019 @ 5:06pm 
My personal top priority reccomendations are: Weapon attachments, meme beacons, alien hunter weapons and PCSes goes in the bin, install the mod "reload ends turn" and "Yellow alert" along with a pod size booster (reccomend IPSBFL, as it also diversifies the alien pods), install the mod that removes stat bonuses from covert ops, lower the damage numbers on Xcom weapons (there is a mod called "nerf high tier weapons" that is good for this purpose, as it's ini puts all weapon dmg numbers in 1 easy to edit list), use custom classes that don't have skills that break the action economy (serial, reaper and DfA are prime offenders, but there are others).

Just my two cents. Make of it what you will.
Syro System 5 Aug, 2019 @ 5:06pm 
@mike_calhoun420 That would be the fault of base-game Xcom being OP AF. If you are using modded classes, chances are they are even more OP then the vanilla classes are (and they are already straight up broken).
Go watch Beagle's "Operators vs Aliens" for a lot of great ideas on what to cull in order to make Xcom stop being OP.

M0NSTER 29 Jul, 2019 @ 10:26am 
These Avatars melted in my final battle. Any idea if this would still work if I bump up the number of avatars being faced at once?
SupremeMorpheus 28 Jul, 2019 @ 5:09pm 
Welp, I've finally managed to work up the courage to install this for my next playthrough... wish me luck!
Woolfy 10 Jul, 2019 @ 6:48pm 
Hacked a codex spawned the avatar instantly had my entire Squad mind controlled.10/10 would die again
PSY 17 Jun, 2019 @ 4:05pm 
Are you planning to update this any to make it compatible with Avatar Buffs or make them immune to feedback?
Alterd-Rushnano  [author] 17 Jun, 2019 @ 6:21am 
@darkdill
Checking is late. It looks like it definitely conflicts with the feature.
darkdill 15 Jun, 2019 @ 9:08pm 
Incompatible with the Avatar Buffs mod. Causes a crash if that mod's reflect mechanic kicks in.
PSY 15 Jun, 2019 @ 2:23pm 
omae wa mou shindeiru
Shavy 6 Jun, 2019 @ 7:51am 
soulstealer makes your avatar immortal btw also the ruler reation is just bs dawg.
Special Lizard 4 Jun, 2019 @ 7:27pm 
would psi op with solace counter this?
Snipe 3 Jun, 2019 @ 3:28am 
That video was awesome. There were no survivors.. Chilly and now I'm afraid. But I gotta use it.
What's An Airport? 1 Jun, 2019 @ 10:21pm 
Mindsheild spam would work against this thing, right?
D3adlocust 1 Jun, 2019 @ 5:02pm 
Holy crap!
This is like a mod for a masochist, that second reaction is terrifying. I assume the avatar is similar when a codex is skullmined? I would like to see a video of someone actually beating an avatar or even the final mission. I don't try and use OP perks for my team, but I balance them with new aliens and a buffed avatar already. This is impossible, truely.
Boundir 1 Jun, 2019 @ 2:56pm 
Well done. Will definitely try the impossible.
Coley 1 Jun, 2019 @ 10:03am 
I'm considering using this, despite my game being literally impossible atm, but i was wondering if this'll clash with Reality's Avatar Buffs mod in any way.
david.lin330 1 Jun, 2019 @ 7:23am 
Will you put "corrupt avatar's ability" into this unit ?
󰀀Wilson 1 Jun, 2019 @ 5:08am 
안돼!!!! 내 애지중지 키운 병사들이 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
M0NSTER 31 May, 2019 @ 4:29pm 
I've been waiting for this mod forever now, glad to see it has finally been released.
Aries 31 May, 2019 @ 3:56pm 
@Alterd-Rushnano have these beings take no damage from feedback, as the avatar never does any skills due to the interruption from the feedback resistance order. it makes them a joke due to it spamming 3 psi attacks in a single turn and taking up to 16 feedback damage
CaseyAnthony 31 May, 2019 @ 3:14pm 
Wew, even the ethereals from X1 weren't as strong as this. Imagine this while fighting the APC from Fireborn's tank mod. Excellent job on giving me nightmares.
duanelocsin 31 May, 2019 @ 1:39pm 
The Avatar is extremely dangerous and when encountered on the battlefield must be the first target to be destroyed at all cost!

dmc32 31 May, 2019 @ 1:08pm 
Wow, great title "avatars as faithful to the canon"! You have that whole lore thing down. He is the One, nice! Looking forward to trying this out I'll keep a Spark unit on standby.
Valvatorez(Cox Cable = awful ISP 31 May, 2019 @ 12:33pm 
How high is his health? A Reaper with a superior magazine takes about 75% percent of an Avatar's HP even on Beta Strike.
NotSoLoneWolf 31 May, 2019 @ 9:54am 
THE AGE OF THE SPARK HAS COME
What's An Airport? 31 May, 2019 @ 6:01am 
Well now I have a reason to mindsheild spam besides the Warlock.
Abdulla Babulla 31 May, 2019 @ 4:41am 
btw, I'm using Psi overhaul. Is it possible to add that Mass-Mind Control to the perk list?
Abdulla Babulla 31 May, 2019 @ 4:38am 
Is the game even winnable with that thing? I'm glad I'm using both Gamma Strike and Beta Strike. Can't wait to face this guy.