...3- What could be done is to make Latin a requirement for bureaucratic positions, hoping that over time the lower classes would adopt terms into daily life—similar to how people around the world adopt English idioms today. A strong bureaucracy might achieve this within 5–10 centuries.

4- Institutions: Easier to maintain, especially considering the Eastern Roman Empire still exists.

5- Traditions: Same as fashion—forget about reviving old pagan rites.

In summary, most of these points may sound like a stretch under deep analysis, but I hope this helps anyone play the submod without the discomfort or “OCD feeling” of doing something entirely ahistorical. The main issue is explaining why a character in 867 would be raised in the old Roman culture—but that is left to imagination. Greetings.

This mod made me ask ChatGPT how one could realistically revive Roman culture (since I usually play only historical scenarios). To summarize:

1- Religion: Reviving old Hellenism is impossible.

2- Fashion: Ancient styles could be reintroduced through the elite and social pressure, first among the upper and bourgeois classes (perhaps within decades), but the practicality of "barbarian" clothing would keep common folk using it. However, after centuries of Roman dominance, the lower classes might adopt certain symbols or practices that made them appear more “Roman.”

3- Language: Almost impossible in the short term. The survival factor is that the Papacy preserved Classical Latin as the liturgical language. Forcing it on common speech, however, would be nearly unachievable.

than, its even more difficult to form roman empire, i need more provinces now, a lot

dunno why but it crash while loading when launched with latest HIP withouth SWH

Now, with early, true Romans, my CK2 will be complete. Many thanks and love, author.

@Batman why RIP?

---RIP---

@Typhoon i do but the common roman names, localisations and clothings are very... ancient... Laziale-Latin makes more sense but hey its a game

tbh this mod probably isnt all that innaccurate, especially since its pretty hard to distinquish when vulgar latin becomes old italian and when old italian becomes each regional dialect, its like the how many grains of sand makes a hill situation if u catch my drift!

Really? i never noticed this change, thanks for the info ^^

@dedjustded well if you use the CPR+ module from HIP you do have roman clothings and helmets and such...

I'm not referring to the units i am referring to the character clothes, but alright i can see your point, i was just making a suggestion since it would add some neat flavor to the roman culture

@puhlik1984 the breton language had no significant latin influence like french did. I have to draw the line somewhere.

@dedjustded those units look nothing like real legionaries but rather like vanilla early french units. The italian units fit because it fits the times clothing - not ancient clothing.

P.s. just checked, the Roman unit flavor pack is called "Roman culture redux"

Heya, sorry if this has been mentioned before but could you please, oh please one day make it so that the Romans wear proper Roman clothes, just having them have same clothes as the other Italian's and the Germanic/Frankish cultures is rather immersion breaking. Thanks ^^ I'm pretty sure that the clothes can be found in the vanilla files but I'm not sure, the ones I'm referring to are in the mods lux Invicta, wtwsms and the Roman unit flavor pack. You know, the ones with togas and etc that have a much more Roman feel

Hmmmm , why Breton not included? Last Romans in Breton be )))

@Dinosaur what exactly is not working?

Weird? It's not working?

@Bruce that would be way too much work for something that already is ingame. Just expand to the south vassalize yourself to the byzantines and take over. After tier 3 of the reconquest you can form it.

@TheDovahkin, Romanus is the original rome culture, though. Can it not be so that Romanus culture can also form Rome Empire?

@truelove there is one roman character who is the vassal of the pope and controlling those two provinces next to rome.

So wait, does a roman nation of some sort exist from the beginning or is there just a charecter with Roman culture from the beginning?

@Bruce Wayne you need to become emperor of the byzantine empire and then conquor tier 1,2 and 3 of the imperial reqonquest zone

I realized romanus was culture and not a duchy. I figured you made a "beginning of Rome" mod. I am suprised playing as a Romanus character there isn't a decision or at least casus beli to form Rome

@Bruce Wayne i dont understand your issue. You obviously cant play the pope but his vassal should work just fine

wont let me play as romanus

this no work

@QuickReplay how do you mean anything? can you see the roman culture in 867? or do you think that the conversion isnt working?

Its not doing anything for me.