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HIP - 'Renascentia Romanorum'
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HIP - 'Renascentia Romanorum'

Description
Omnium Enim Rerum Principia Parva Sunt

This is a small and slightly historically ridiculous submod
for those who want to start as Romans in 867
with the: "Historical Immersion Project"[ck2.paradoxwikis.com]

UPDATE v2.0 for:
HIP Frosty3 2020-07-10[forum.paradoxplaza.com]
CK2 3.3[ck2.paradoxwikis.com]

IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO PLAY WITH THE:
"HIP - More Cultural Names" Submod
It includes Latin localisations all over the map
ALSO CHECK OUT:
"HIP - Better Slavs" Submod
I completely reworked the Slavic World

867 Map:
  • Roma, Tusculum, Segni, Ceccano and Albiton are Roman
Events:
There are three culture conversion events:
  1. Colonisation of random provinces via port ("Bring in some Settlers")
    • HIP (and Vanilla) increase the culture conversion chance for Italic and Latin provinces with Roman rulers by 50% and decrease chance by 50% for Greek provinces
    • My mod resets both to 0% because this event represents colonisation, not conversion
  2. Conversion of random neighbouring provinces ("Civilized Peasants")
    • HIP (and Vanilla) increase the culture conversion chance for Italic and Latin provinces with Roman rulers by 50% and decrease chance by 50% for Greek provinces
    My mod does the same with those dynamic steps:
    • 70% faster for: laziale, sardinian, umbrian, tuscan, venetian, dalmatian
    • 60% faster for: ligurian, italian, neapolitan, sicilian
    • 50% faster for: langobardisch, occitan, catalan, arpitan, romanian
    • 40% faster for: castillan, leonese, portuguese, galician, aragonese, frankish, (visigothic)
    • 30% faster for: norman, andalusian_arabic, outremer
    • 50% slower for: greek (untouched)
  3. Conversion of a prosperous province under crown focus
    • HIP (and Vanilla) increase the culture conversion chance for Italic provinces by 20%
    My mod does the same with those dynamic steps:
    • 30% faster for: laziale, sardinian, umbrian, tuscan, venetian, dalmatian
    • 25% faster for: ligurian, italian, neapolitan, sicilian
    • 20% faster for: langobardisch, occitan, catalan, arpitan, romanian
    • 15% faster for: castillan, leonese, portuguese, galician, aragonese, frankish, (visigothic)
    • 10% faster for: norman, andalusian_arabic, outremer
    • 20% slower for: greek
Characters:
  • Theophylact Via Lata, vassal of the pope is Roman
Miscellaneous:
  • The Roman culture is displayed as "Romanus"
  • Roman units look like Italic units again

In this Release Thread[forum.paradoxplaza.com] you can find an alternative version
which instead makes all Dalmatian or Sardinian provinces and characters Roman



Appropriate suggestions will be appreciated

You can do whatever you want with my mod
30 Comments
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shaftnotfound 21 Sep @ 11:57am 
...3- What could be done is to make Latin a requirement for bureaucratic positions, hoping that over time the lower classes would adopt terms into daily life—similar to how people around the world adopt English idioms today. A strong bureaucracy might achieve this within 5–10 centuries.

4- Institutions: Easier to maintain, especially considering the Eastern Roman Empire still exists.

5- Traditions: Same as fashion—forget about reviving old pagan rites.

In summary, most of these points may sound like a stretch under deep analysis, but I hope this helps anyone play the submod without the discomfort or “OCD feeling” of doing something entirely ahistorical. The main issue is explaining why a character in 867 would be raised in the old Roman culture—but that is left to imagination. Greetings.
shaftnotfound 21 Sep @ 11:56am 
This mod made me ask ChatGPT how one could realistically revive Roman culture (since I usually play only historical scenarios). To summarize:

1- Religion: Reviving old Hellenism is impossible.

2- Fashion: Ancient styles could be reintroduced through the elite and social pressure, first among the upper and bourgeois classes (perhaps within decades), but the practicality of "barbarian" clothing would keep common folk using it. However, after centuries of Roman dominance, the lower classes might adopt certain symbols or practices that made them appear more “Roman.”

3- Language: Almost impossible in the short term. The survival factor is that the Papacy preserved Classical Latin as the liturgical language. Forcing it on common speech, however, would be nearly unachievable.
Endovelicus 27 Aug, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
than, its even more difficult to form roman empire, i need more provinces now, a lot
Acracy 2 Jan, 2022 @ 2:16am 
dunno why but it crash while loading when launched with latest HIP withouth SWH
Radanos 5 Aug, 2020 @ 2:59am 
Now, with early, true Romans, my CK2 will be complete. Many thanks and love, author.
76561198086418175  [author] 29 Apr, 2020 @ 12:48am 
@Batman why RIP?
Bruce Wayne 29 Apr, 2020 @ 12:10am 
---RIP---
76561198086418175  [author] 27 Mar, 2020 @ 7:12am 
@Typhoon i do but the common roman names, localisations and clothings are very... ancient... Laziale-Latin makes more sense but hey its a game
Typhoon 26 Mar, 2020 @ 9:08pm 
tbh this mod probably isnt all that innaccurate, especially since its pretty hard to distinquish when vulgar latin becomes old italian and when old italian becomes each regional dialect, its like the how many grains of sand makes a hill situation if u catch my drift!
dedjustded 7 Mar, 2020 @ 4:16pm 
Really? i never noticed this change, thanks for the info ^^