most fun ive had on the computer in a while!

is it possible to spawn in as a rat by default instead of a rabbit?

would it be difficult to create more cqc maps?

Can confirm the mod still works as of 12/2023
Except for the red flags map, which doesn't launch at all

@Xargock, this has been mentioned before but there are some crashes for red flags. I am specifically getting a missing asset for char_zombierabbit1.

Non-Rabbit-Battle-Ring always jumpscares me cause ill spawn and immediately someone throws a spear through my skull. Makes me jump every time.

Has to be top 5 favorite Overgrowth mods.

This is great, a tutorial like this should have been in the game to begin with.

@Xargock

Thanks again, I'll try that graphical settings thing.

I think it was the same thing as last time, even though I took off the "Big Temple" mod it still crashed.

Yeah, there isn't too much to be done about the frame rate on Watery Docks; the water assets all around and the number of creatures running around just kinda do that. You may have better results if you tone down the graphical settings on that one. I can look into the Red Flags crashing, though that's likely also a mod collision with something else - does it give you a particular error message?

@Xargock

Thanks for letting me know. Other problems I've noticed though is that the Red Flags level keeps crashing for me, and on the Watery Dock of Doom one, the frame rate becomes poor.

Yup - so that actually sounds like an issue with one of the other mods you're using. This mod doesn't change any of the base game files, but it uses most of them. (I was very careful and took a lot of steps to make sure of that.) Disable other mods that you have enabled that might change the base game files for the dog model and it should be fine. If you can figure out which mod it is, be sure to report it to the author so they can consider changing it.

This mod crashed for whatever reason when I was playing it, and now it has an error claiming "File collision with "Big Temple" and the dog soldier hull models or whatever it is, is there any way to fix the problem?

So, the biggest issue with those two maps are the sheer volume of characters running around; because of the physics for every character and object in OG, it's *very* resource intensive. Courtyard Defense should get better after the first minute or so, because it uses a trick to optimize (it loads ~40 characters and then kills everyone offscreen, then they stop using resources after that time). But it's really just an issue of scale and how OG handles stuff in the background. It might actually be more of a RAM or processor issue; I'm not sure which one takes the beating on that.

I'm loving this mod so far, but it's basically impossible for me to play "Big Battle Bulge" or the courtyard wave defense maps because of how laggy they are. I've even tried running the game on the lowest possible settings with no difference being made. Is there anything I can do to try and raise my frames? I know my graphics card isn't an issue, and normal overgrowth runs just fine

Yup yup - whatever drive you have Steam or Overgrowth installed in, likely C:/Steam/steamapps/workshop/content/25000/1374531749 - you'll find the readme a couple folders in. You'll need a text editor to edit code, I personally use Sublime Text and like that. I would recommend making your own copy of the entire folder to work out of if you plan to edit files directly, so it isn't automatically over-written if there's an update. (I don't have any planned at this moment, but you never know.) Good luck and have fun!

just got one more question for you, do you know the name of the specific file or where the folder it is located within overgrowth? I checked but I didnt have a luck figuring out where its located. thanks again

There is actually a readme file in with the contents of the mod with instructions for where and roughly how to add things; there are also comment lines in the code with basic instructions, as well. I would recommend starting there. It's been a while since I've had time to work on this, so that's actually where I'd start myself :)

I see, I believe I seen something like this on another post do I have to make modifications to the XML file or is it something else?

@LowKeyJD, kind of, but not exactly - the script works by loading specific models from a list. It can be done, but you'd need to change the actual arena script by adding the model to it as a spawn option (which isn't too hard to do) and then setting the battle to use that model, and if you're using the tool to configure the battles, you then need to add that model to that, as well. So kind of, but not without effort and modifying files. It's one of the biggest limitations to the arena script.

any way to place a spawn on custom characters? atm you can only play as a custom character until you die then it changes to co-op mode.

props for the effort you put in

i got a mod that reduces arena ambiance, so that wil prob fix it

Probably - that's just kind of how it is with the base arena script, though. I suppose I could take another stab at trying to figure out how to reduce it. I think there might be another mod in the workshop that does that, which shouldn't conflict with this mod.

for some reason the background ambiance is ear-deafining loud. Any ideas to fix this?

That's a shame. I thought it would be better with my new pc.

It should be laggy in the first 15 seconds or so while everything spawns in and then ragdolls (which happens off-screen so it isn't immersion breaking) - it's kind of a flaw with the way the endless wave script works. After that.... it definitely can be, just because of how many characters and weapons are active at one time as the match goes on.

is cinder courtyard laggy for everyone?

looove this mod and especially the fact u used the endless wave script!

There are ways to adjust and modify lighting within the editor- but to be honest, I never quite figured out how to make that work well. There are a few different components to it that I never quite mastered. People in the Wolfire Discord channel are extremely helpful about teaching how to use the editor, so I would recommend checking there if it's of interest to you to learn how to do that sort of thing.

Swordy Stronghold has a problem -- the huge sun's light is reflected off the snow, making it hard to see what you're doing. Could you somehow make the sunlight less intense or maybe let me know how to do it myself?

I'm glad you like it, Dakota :) That was actually one of the first suggestions I submitted to Wolfire when I learned that they took feedback :D If I had better programming skills, I'd absolutely work on a system like that - and the neat thing about Overgrowth is that it absolutely could be done. Perhaps one day!

Btw I love this

It would be amazing if we had an arena were you gained fame for wins and could spend that fame for weapons or something

@Seal Team that's something that I had on my wishlist for a while, but I find fighting as non-rabbits to be very limiting, so I didn't feel it too much worth the effort - the endless combat scripts do readily support changing the player character to be anything, so that may be something to check out - it's a lot more flexible than the arena system.

Also, really glad to hear you enjoyed the mod :)

@Seal Team, it is absolutely possible to do so - if you go into the path file (in my mod, it's called multi_arena_xarg_paths.xml (minus the _xarg for the base game's path file)) you can change what the game loads for the spawn of that type. As long as the model you pick supports all the features the arena script requires, it should work - all the models listed in my mod's path file will do.

This is an amazing mod and has brought many hours of pure hectic joy! Although, I'm wondering if there's a way to create an arena game-mode where the player cab start out as a different species rather than a Rabbit every round. I tried to make my own arena mod like that, but I kind of have zero scripting experience, lol

Yeah, it might of been conflicting weapon mods because I disable some weapons and now they work.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to replicate any problems with the dog glaive, and the files for it seem to be in-tact; do you have some other mods enabled? If you have other weapons mods or mods that use modified weapon files turned on, they may do something that changes the file in a way that breaks it in mine. That's the only thing I can think of, unfortunately.

@Xargock It says Item file "Data/Items/DogGlaive.xml" did not load correctly.

@Mooing and @MydoomfesT Does it say which asset it's missing in the error and/or which levels don't work properly? I haven't been made aware of any issues since the last update, and funnily enough I have a difficult time testing the versions posted to the workshop because of how it handles the files on my end. Any information will be helpful and I'll be very happy to get it fixed asap :)

Great mod. Easily my favorite mod for Overgrowth, but whenever I try to play Cinder Courtyard Defense it crashes the game. It says it's missing an asset. Any fix?

some levels don't work

awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More levels and content on the way, friend :) I actually just pushed out an update tonight with a new map - it's still getting fine tuned, with some AI-running-into-the-ocean issues, but it's pretty fun to play. I have to say that I love being able to make this content, because, honestly, it's what I like to play, too - sometimes I open my mod meaning to do work, and I get caught up playing arena instead :D

Hey man, thanks for making this! I just purchased Overgrowth and I'm loving the story mode, but arena combat really fleshes out the game! I hope you make more arenas and modes. Thank you!!!!!

No, @Xargock Thank you. Modders like you makes the game a lot better

Thank you @Phil, I appreciate that. My hope is to make more and more content that people can enjoy :D

Good maps, thanks!

So, that's sort of on my "to do" list - part of the reason this mod's size is what it is, is because it includes scaled down sound files - the same method used in the 5% crowd volume mod, just not as drastic in the reduction. If I can figure out how to do it by scripting, it'll pare down the size of the mod, and keep it compatible - it's kind of on the "wish list" for now."