Kenshi
Impossible Start
114 Comments
M3rc3nari022 6 Oct @ 9:58pm 
Depois que consegue um braço fica facil vira kenshi normal
Damaskox 9 Jul @ 5:28am 
So no arms -> I cannot escape the cage myself.
I need to wait until someone else frees me from my cage?
johnsteele1126 31 Mar @ 4:08pm 
i wanna change up this mod a bit could i get help
kwk9642 29 Oct, 2024 @ 5:39pm 
I suggest the start should put the character nearby cannibal village and surrounding with cannibaians. Not directly at the village. So we can try to play other race rather than skeleton only. It should be more challenge.
Asur 29 May, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Can I take your mod into my build? With the indication of you in the credits of course
Discomelon 1 Apr, 2024 @ 9:12pm 
it could also be from grabbed the bugged cat, there is a specifdc cat you can steal(i forget where) that put you millions in debt from taking it, i can imagine that if you take it while already in debt so heavily that it could cause overflow errors and reset it. I know this cause it happened to me recently
Dosboy 26 Mar, 2024 @ 11:59pm 
Thanks for the response. I was able to find where to adjust the starting cats.
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 26 Mar, 2024 @ 5:50pm 
@KaLog @Dosboy yes, the import is hardcoded into the game and will automatically reset the debt. There is no way around it as the game is rather strict to what it allows to modify in the FCK editor.
KaLog 24 Mar, 2024 @ 7:22pm 
Noticed importing my game reset my debt was able to reload a save but that might be the problem
Dosboy 13 Mar, 2024 @ 8:57am 
Trying this mod and after about 10 days suddenly I noticed I had +100 cats. Not sure why, could it be another mod? Don't really know any that impact the economy. Also, I'd love to see a version that has 10,000,000 debt but I think that would be pretty easy to do and could even do myself though not a modder.
junkbot 3 Mar, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
ether way worth it trip
junkbot 3 Mar, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
hard to get in but easy leaving with my scout legs :)
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 23 Feb, 2024 @ 7:14am 
@junkbot yeah, guards are their own "faction". Try to sneak past them, since you can't benefit from the neutrality of Shinoby thieves with the guards.
junkbot 22 Feb, 2024 @ 4:08pm 
the guards are apart of the thieves but still attack me im unsure if this is a bug but i was just curious why they attack
junkbot 22 Feb, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
you say that the shinobi thieves are not hostile but why at mongrel the guards attack me?
JACKOB7776 14 Nov, 2023 @ 1:32pm 
can you make varsion with just 10 mil debt?
Михаил 15 Oct, 2023 @ 12:13pm 
Достаточно заглянуть к скелетам за протезами и купить очень быстрые ноги и вороватые руки. И персонаж превращается из суперслабого в супер резвого. Моя скорость бега с атлетикой в 60 и с протезами достигала 50. Никто не догонит. И кстати, если на вас напали, достаточно снять ноги и притвориться мёртвым. Враги уйдут и вы продолжите своё путешествие.
Gemini 22 Apr, 2023 @ 9:20am 
Yes, it's possible as a non-skeleton. I've played the harder version of this (imo), Bedrock Bottom, as a Greenlander and Scorchlander. Scorchlander being easier.
Cklert 3 Apr, 2023 @ 8:53pm 
Has anyone checked if this start is possible for a non-skeleton? If so that would probably be the hardest start imaginable more than it already is.

It seems though that the cannibals will immediately put you in a cage and if you're lucky, you'll get eaten soon.
CrystalJoe 15 Jan, 2023 @ 4:06am 
In addition to the recruit list below Cat in the Dust King Tower is also a recruit you can fairly easy get. Started the insane start a couple weeks ago and having a blast with it!
Ch3 18 Sep, 2022 @ 8:40am 
I wonder how fast this mod's character can glow , so I do recording while play this time.
Mod I used
I record till day 30 23:59 (a month)
Impossible start ver.2
Chinese traditional
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day 11:arrive black desert city
day 13:Toughness76,tech lv.2 (built at northern holy mine ruin)
day 20:6th time BD city , toughness 100 , skeleton bed tech
day 22:2nd base at sniper valley complete
day 23:got peeler machine's design , assassinate 100 , kidnapped cat-lon as trainer
day 24:Swept abuse tower freed Agnu
day 26:Fixed skeleton relationship , made Sadneil burn joined.
day 27:All skeleton " Mechanilized " completed.
day 28:Agnu toughness 95, go ashlands 2nd time
day 30:kidnap the rest 4 ashlands leaders back to 1st base , Sadneil Toughness 91
Primary statistics for 1st character
Strength 49
Dexterity 79
Toughness 100
Dodge 34
Martial Arts 78
As I said , this mode teach me how easy Toughness can be trained , THX a lot ! (゚∀゚)
Ch3 14 Sep, 2022 @ 9:06am 
A mod really worth to play ! I have lots of fun with this !
Insane Edition doesn't so insane
let me explain what I do
start at cannibal village make that choose non-skeleton-race impossible , so I can only use skeleton.
Go to black desert city to get limbs.
then use robot leg control my "pseudo-dead-mod" , make toughness train to over 90.
Escaping from town event , use bandit train assassinate , develop technology to skeleton repair bed.
Then kidnap Cat-lon and get peeler machine's design.
Don't worry be alone , the partner is easy to find.
here is my partner by join order.
1st--- Anti-Slavers's Big Bo.
2nd---Agnu will join after be freed , even though Skeleton is -100 to you
3rd,4th---free Holy Nation's slaves
5th---fix relationship with Shek , handover bug master let Shek's princess Seto join.
Haven't try Tengu's vault and Most-Loved-BEEP yet.
Thanks for this hardcore mod writer ! (゚∀゚)(゚∀゚)(゚∀゚)(゚∀゚)(゚∀゚)(゚∀゚)
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 24 Mar, 2022 @ 7:39pm 
@Pata I am super proud of you! You are a legend!
Pata 23 Mar, 2022 @ 5:29am 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mods used:
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DarkUI
18+FemaleBody
Impossible Start
Fix Relation(Healing)EN
RecruitPrisoners
Healing_Pod
Ancient training technology
Snowii's Meitou Crafting
GenMod
Fun merchant life
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Pata 23 Mar, 2022 @ 5:28am 
I started as a Skeleton and sneeked to Suspicious Lab, hoped to find some limbs there, I didn't.

My Stealthskill was Level 70 at this point, so I packed all heavy stuff i found in my inventory to level also Strength.

Crawled throught Floodlands and Obedience it was easy to avoid the Securityspiders.

Wanted to crawle throught the Fog Islands, got killend a multiple times by Fogmen, so I started to move only at night.

Then I finally managed to came to Mongrel, i thought they would be friendly, they weren't.

During a Fogmen nightattack I sneaked in and stole some Limbs from the Shop, so i wasn't unarmed anymore.

From there I run to Fishmen Island and started to build my Outpost.

Kidnapped the King Gurgler and some Alpha Gurgler, after some Grandfish therapy they joined my Team.

I have 40 Pawns now and a lot of stuff stolen from Catun, from this point on it would be only a grind to pay of the debt...

Thx for the Mod it was a Challenge :steamhappy:
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 18 Jul, 2021 @ 9:36am 
@gamenode Unofficial Steam "Awesome Brutality" Achievement unlocked! You are the best and I am mega proud of you!
gamenode 18 Jul, 2021 @ 4:50am 
I think I've beaten the Impossible Start.

My starter character is alive and has masterwork limbs.

Holy Nation is Allied to me.

I'm making about a million cats a day selling grog from a massive plantation.

I have over a hundred workers and soldiers to protect my facility.

My debt is down to 987 million, but my farms are only at 1/3 capacity. I just need to kidnap more Hiver Workers for the farming and some more Hungry Bandits for the grogging.

Estimate another 200 days until debt is paid off. Then I can buy off the other factions.

I haven't played in about a year, but only just now got around to writing this up.

Thanks for the amazing mod.
Штиль 30 Jun, 2020 @ 11:36am 
I found it. "Reactive world" cause this error
Штиль 30 Jun, 2020 @ 11:12am 
When starting a new game with impossible start i have the error message (i translates it in english): "can't find a city in start city's list" and new character apear in main city of opponents of slavery.
Maybe some of my mods cause this error? pls help
gamenode 19 Jun, 2020 @ 7:05pm 
What do you all think the "victory" conditions are for this mod? Like, how do you know you've bat the "impossible" start? Is it just getting arms and legs? Getting to Hub? Or is it doing the impossible and paying off the billion cat debt?

Is it "cheating" to use other mods like a global pacifier or a recruitment mod?

I guess what I'm getting at is what is the "pure" experience for this mod? What is considered "cheesing" the game?

Is save scumming cheesing?

I know everyone decides how they play but I would like to know what others think.

Right now I've made it to the Nomad village in Shem. I've got all my limbs but they aren't very good quality it's about 13 days in. My stealth skill is 98, but only if I take my legs off! I'm almost to Hub, but for the life of me I don't know what I will do after that. I don't know what I can do being able to run 7mph and with stealth of about 26 with my legs on.
gamenode 19 Jun, 2020 @ 2:59pm 
Does the Insane start always give you a bounty in Holy Nation or does it alternate between United Cities? I wanted to play as an ally (eventually) of HN this time. I can still do it but I'd have to always hide BLB the whole game.
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 1 Jun, 2020 @ 8:11am 
gamenode hehe goats have issues. You can tweak the mod files if you wish because the game did have some changes done since 2018 and I don't even have the original files to edit this mod anymore, nor do I play the game at this point.
gamenode 30 May, 2020 @ 1:37pm 
In Hub, the Holy Nation Outlaws are supposed to be neutral but some of them are hostile. There is at least one walking around town that shows that it's allied.

My only allies are Thieves Guild.

Anyway, there's definitely an interesting political situation in town. The Mercenaries are hostile, The Trade Ninjas are neutral. They will help me against the Nomads, but not the Mercenaries. The Mercenaries ignore me unless the Slavemongers attack.

For the most part I have to keep my people on Passive to avoid any unintended fights. This requires more micromanagement than I'd like. I've mostly dealt with the Mercenaries and when the last one leaves the bar I'll stick him in a cage or at the bottom of a ravine.

It's also complicated having drifters walking around town that might attack at any time. Now that I have turrets up I'll deal with them too without conflicting with the Ninja Guards.

BTW, did you have to make the Garru and Goats hostile? What did I ever do to them?
gamenode 30 May, 2020 @ 4:29am 
Anyone figure out how to get a pack animal? I've always had a good relationship with the nomads and it pains me that I can't restore that. Anyone know how to fix that?
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 17 Apr, 2020 @ 12:10am 
Kittentheboss glad it gave you that edge you needed :)
Kittentheboss 15 Apr, 2020 @ 11:50pm 
I've been streaming a pt of this and it went well. It just took time to get to mongrel and steal some prosthetics
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 30 Mar, 2020 @ 5:22am 
ĐěQŠěr Веселитесь (using translator)
DeQSer 30 Mar, 2020 @ 12:31am 
Ну чтож, Кенши слишком прост для меня, пора опробовать этот невозможный старт)
CrashSlayer 16 Feb, 2020 @ 11:00am 
That's a shame. I'll just avoid importing unless it happens for a different city that I need like anti slavers or holy nation hq. It's real tempting to avoid the honor rule from importing and just not to live in a city and just cheese out stats. It really does make it an interesting dynamic of having everybody hate you and needing to steal to survive for mid-late game.
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 15 Feb, 2020 @ 9:03pm 
CrashSlayer no, sorry, this is an in-game issue that can't be touched upon. The game is very strict/limited in what can be moded.
CrashSlayer 14 Feb, 2020 @ 9:30pm 
Is there any way to put back the 1 bill debt after importing? Town had the ghosted glitch and need to import to fix it.
BASHER_450 27 Jan, 2020 @ 7:30am 
Alright thanks a lot :)
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 27 Jan, 2020 @ 4:42am 
BASHER_450, just do export -> import and it will reset to zero
BASHER_450 25 Jan, 2020 @ 6:36am 
Can I remove the debt on me? I would like a limbless start without infinite debt
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 19 Jan, 2020 @ 6:59am 
Agustin you can get a human follower later on and swap or get rid of the initial character. There is only one starting position. Use a skeleton to binge your way to a town and get your low life started from there.
Agustin 18 Jan, 2020 @ 6:53pm 
How do I start in spring? I saw a video of a version of the mod where you start in that city instead of the cannibal town.

I want to start with a human but it is virtually impossible to do anything in the cannibal village.
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 4 Dec, 2019 @ 5:01am 
There are some random prisoners/slave that can join you and you could try to raise your reputation to go to neutral with various factions and gain access to more recruits.
ShadowFTL 4 Dec, 2019 @ 1:45am 
So, as almost all hates me, how to recruit new members to my party? I see a solution with prisoneer mod. But its to OP, so how i can grow my party?
CloudsInTheSky  [author] 16 Sep, 2019 @ 11:12am 
gamenode the issue with the debt is that if you import the game then the debts resets to zero. You can mod it easy in a game start if you want. You simply need to change the starting cash value in FCK.
gamenode 16 Sep, 2019 @ 9:47am 
I like the idea of what you've done. I would like a game to start with a billion in debt but not all the other things. I have a role play idea and the debt will prevent me from buying anything in game. My goal will be to get out of debt but I can't sell weapons and armor that I've found on slain enemies. I can only use them to equip my followers.

Is there a version or way I can give myself that billion dollars in debt?