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No Mo Culling (Formerly known as Zombie Fix)
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No Mo Culling (Formerly known as Zombie Fix)

Description
No Mo' Culling (AKA "I want persistent zombies on my server")
Requires manual install (do not just activate the mod in-game! it will do nothing!)

You may or may not have noticed, but your server has forever been plagued with disappearing zombies…

Well say "No Mo!"

What this does

This mod fixes ALL instances of disappearing zombies that plague vanilla servers.

That includes:
- Zombies disappearing above a count of 500
- Zombies disappearing when being kited

As long as your server has zombies, your zombies are getting unduly removed by bugs and purposeful limitations. We fixed those!

Bear with us though, as the awesomeness of this mod will require you to manually install it. Don't worry, it's a very simple process and we'll guide you through it!

Who needs it

Everyone who wants to play Zomboid in multiplayer!

If server files are patched, it affects the entire server (and all its players). If regular game files are patched, it affects the individual player even on an unpatched server.

Everyone should get this and patch their game, but especially server owners should patch their server with it.

How to install

There are two ways to procure the files:
- Subscribe to the mod
OR
- Visit the github link in the pinned discussion below

If you subscribe to the mod, you will find the files in your steam workshop folder under Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\3115293671\mods\No Mo Culling

Here is the full default windows path for your convenience: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\3115293671\mods\No Mo Culling

If you prefer using github, you will find the files in the latest release. Direct download links included (check the pinned discussion!).


Once you have the files, copy them and navigate to your Project Zomboid game or server install:
- If your server is hosted via the game ("Host" option in menus), find your normal game install
- You can find your game install in your Steam library. Right click Project Zomboid, Manage -> Browse local files.
- For servers, connect via ftp if on a hosting platform, or simply browse to its install folder if on your machine.

Once in the game/server install, browse into zombie\popman (on a server, java\zombie\popman)

Here is the full default windows path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\zombie\popman

Paste the files in popman, overwrite and you’re done!

Credits and more info

If you have any questions, please check the FAQ pinned discussions post. If you want more info about zombie disappearances and how the mod works, please check the More Info pinned post.

Credits and Special Thanks to Sooner535{UFIP}, Fed_Cap for their help in figuring out a solution, to everyone sharing in bug forums, and to Retanaru for making the video.

A very special thanks to EnigmaGrey for believing in us and giving us the drive to figure it out.

3D rendered art for the title card by: Ash

Workshop ID: 3115293671
Mod ID: No Mo Culling
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LTT - iFuuXi3 6 Sep @ 10:21am 
Hello,

I’m running a Project Zomboid B41 server hosted on AxenHost, with the mod " project france " installed. I tried installing the “No Mo Culling (Formerly known as Zombie Fix)” mod to reduce zombie-related bugs in multiplayer. The mod is installed in the correct location. ( java/zombie/popman )

However, after installing it, my server fails to start. The server log mentions a “disk full” error, even though yesterday the server only needed about 9GB of space, and now it still doesn’t start even with 13GB allocated.

I’m not sure why this is happening. Has anyone experienced this issue before, and do you have any guidance on how to make the server run with this mod installed?

i'v try many thing , internet research , chatGPT asking , but nothing seems to work..

Thank you very much for your help!
Gojita 31 Aug @ 12:12am 
Okay, here is what I understand:

- Render further zomboid in lower FPS.
- Cut/Black out the one that further away.

But wasn't CPU still memorize them? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I just want to know how exactly does this will boost my server performance? - If you can, walk me through it a lil' bit!
Mopop  [author] 29 Aug @ 10:16pm 
Yes it works on existing saves.
Modinstaller  [author] 28 Aug @ 11:40am 
What we noticed is that when the server is patched but not the client and there are more than 500 zombies around, the client will naturally continue parsing zombies and sending requests, which, if I remember correctly, is what shows in your admin panel as "Culled Client". In fact I remember that it would constantly count up to some number then go back to 0 then count up, back to 0 etc..

This is why we wrote that it's not strictly necessary for clients to use the patch but it's probably still better to do it because who knows how much cpu/network load the infinite counting adds (we didn't test it extensively). It's over there in the FAQ under "How does this mod increase performance exactly?".

So yes if your client is not patched you will see "Culled" stats but as long as "Server" stays at 0, it doesn't matter.

Now I can't tell you why you still have disappearances. I'd need to see it in action and we'd have to investigate, because that's not normal.

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Modinstaller  [author] 28 Aug @ 11:40am 
Hey, so it's been a while since we made this so I'm a bit rusty, but from what I can remember, the admin stats panel thing is just visual.

Basically there's 2 sources of disappearances that we could find, a bug we fixed in the server's code (you're using that fix when patching your server), and a limitation put in by the devs (of 500 zombies max).

For that 500 limit, we initially patched the clientside code that would parse zombies and send requests to the server for deletion. But it was annoying for servers to expect each player to patch their game so eventually we made a hack for servers too, so the code would simply stop handling deletion requests and just never delete anything.

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Tr4ppeR 28 Aug @ 11:38am 
does this work on an exisiting hosted save?
Burryaga 20 Aug @ 3:40am 
Okay, so IF I install this mod on BOTH server AND client, then both values stop culling. The description suggests that only the host needs this, but my testing and the stats page suggests that clients who want to avoid culling also need this.

https://imgur.com/a/eXFW6Oa

I haven't yet gone looking for disappearing zombies visually, but the stats in this image and the one below strongly suggest that having this on client in addition to server will have visible culling consequences.
Burryaga 20 Aug @ 3:14am 
Okay, so after checkin that panel, it seems that the mod successfully prevents serverside culling when installed on server, but not clientside culling. I never see anything culled serverside, but I see many clientside culls. Image for evidence. I suspect this could be the cause of at least some observed disappearances with the mod running, but perhaps they are temporary and would come back under the right circumstances if the server still has them stored.

https://imgur.com/a/qq1d8pJ

I wouldn't expect to see any culling since your page suggests that "the entire server" is affected by a serverside installation, but perhaps I misunderstand what you're saying in your page. Clientside culling does seem to persist, however, with the mod only installed on the server. I'm going to throw it on my client as well and see if this has any effect on the stats page.
Burryaga 20 Aug @ 2:00am 
I'll check that panel and report back. It's entirely possible that what we experienced is not culling on a technical level. Still, the player losing a body doesn't care so much whether it's technically culling as they care that their zombie self disappeared. 😅
Mopop  [author] 19 Aug @ 9:47pm 
I'd need to see a video or something happening. I doubt it's culling though, you can easily check that in the admin panel, statistics and there is a column for culling.

But yeah a video of what is going on would be nice.