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Rim of Madness - Caitiff

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Improved Vampires
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Version 1.0.2
Adds Caitiff to Rim of Madness - Vampires



Description:

Caitiff is a term with two general meanings. The first meaning is more of a political term: those of a flawed or unknown lineage, who have been abandoned by their sires. It is not so much that they lack a Clan as they lack the support that comes with the Clan structure. It carries the implication that they were a mistake by their sire. Many of these unfortunates are considered Caitiff simply because they do not know which Clan they come from, because they have not been told. It is an arbitrary title and may refer more specifically to any outcast.

The second and more biologically-oriented Caitiff, also known as the clanless, are rare Cainites that do not officially belong to any clan. These vampires have no inherent clan weakness, but no inherent disciplines either. None of the typical clan markers apply to them. Although the Caitiff have manifested throughout history, they tend to do so more frequently among the higher generations, such that the terms "Caitiff" and "Thin-blooded" are often considered synonymous. While there is considerable overlap, not all Caitiff are thin-bloods.

Caitiff are kindred which can learn any discipline. However, because they lack the benefit of access to the accrued knowledge of the clans, they gain XP much more slowly than other vampires, though this may be changed in the mod's settings menu. Players which intend to play a long term colony, and don't wish to run out of vampire content, players that can't find a combination of disciplines that they want in the base Vampire mod, or players that want to have access to all clan disciplines will benefit from this mod.


Note:
I have not tested how the UI will deal with having so many disciplines. if your Caitiff learns every discipline over the course of your play through, expect unusual behavior. Please let me know if there is a UI problem, or some kind of limit on the number of abilities which can be displayed, and I'll see what I can do about fixing it.

Compatibility:

Caitiff should be compatible with everything that the 1.3 Version of "Rim of Madness - Vampires" is. It is also fully compatible with "Rim of Madness - Clan Malkavian", and adds the Dementation discipline from that mod to the Caitiff skill sheet if it's in your mod list.

Future Plans:

My next project is to add the Celerity discipline into the game, and possibly some other clans and their disciplines. As I add more disciplines, I'll update this mod to reflect that, so that Caitiff always have access to all of them.

FAQ
Q: What is this? You said my vampire would have all disciplines, but mine only has Animalism, Auspex, and Blood... WTF?

A: Scroll down.

Thanks:

Thanks to Jecrell for their excellent mod and for providing the source code to it, to Aludis for their "Clan Malkavian" mod, which I referenced heavily for this project, and thank you for subscribing. Enjoy.
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Balthazad 9 Aug @ 3:56pm 
daaaamn, time passes by...!
my life turned pretty much upside down in the meantime, neither did i have time to play RW nor to learn modding it... xd
but maybe i can pay someone soon to do it!
Duran 1 Aug, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
@Graug, could you please repost it as a new mod?
Oddness thanks for the mod I hope you get some free time soon
Average Genestealer 7 Jul, 2023 @ 9:55am 
it worked
Average Genestealer 7 Jul, 2023 @ 9:20am 
i pasted their defs into the files for the main mod so i hope this works
Average Genestealer 7 Jul, 2023 @ 9:16am 
Im currently trying to patch caitiffs into the main mod, i probably did it very wrong but ah well
Oddness  [author] 1 Jun, 2023 @ 6:24am 
Starting Point:

You could also try asking the creator of the Clan Malkavian mod. Last I looked they had updated their mod, and could probably give you more pertinent advice. Their mod does pretty much the same thing this one does, though I don't think that it was open source, so you'd have to ask in the comments.
Oddness  [author] 1 Jun, 2023 @ 6:11am 
Hey @Balthazad. I can point to my exact problem --

The original mod designer changed the way that they handle references (Nuget, I think?). I looked into it a bit, but I was having a problem changing it myself, as it's an unfamiliar problem. I'm self taught in c#, and spend most of my time in Unity these days (When I'm not working 14+ hours a day), so I kind of put this project to the side.

In short, I couldn't work up that stubborn persistence that keeps a project going.

To learn the basics, it was a combination of a basic understanding of coding (Which you seem to have), a lot of Googling, though I don't remember the sites I used, and looking at other people's open source work.
Oddness  [author] 1 Jun, 2023 @ 6:11am 
As mentioned below, anyone can feel free to re-post the mod, and it sounds like you would maintain it better than I did, so good luck. Failing that, the next time I play Rimworld, and can work up some of that stubborn persistence that a person needs to work through an unfamiliar coding problem, I'll update it and share, if someone else hasn't already done it.

If someone else has already done it, I won't repost, and will probably take this mod down to avoid confusion, because I'd rather see the idea handled by someone who will actually maintain it, and I'm not that person.
Balthazad 30 May, 2023 @ 3:40am 
it really shouldn't be too difficult to update this mod for anyone with basic coding knowledge
during 1.3, i had fondled around a bit in the code to create my veryown style of vamps, named caitiff but with specific skillsets; all i used was the windows .txt editor

@Oddness: how did you get into the basics? i'm struggling to find a point to begin with modding, have done .ini edits (C&C, SMAC) & C++ with a UI (wc3 mapeditor) half of my life, maybe i'd be a good scholar if someone took me a bit by the hand ;p
doesn't help much that i have WalkingProblem since ages on my friendslist as he's so superbusy irl that he stopped playing & modding years ago :')
Rickyn227 20 Mar, 2023 @ 10:41am 
Damn is this really dead for good then?