" 2. The “Communism is childish idealism” crowd
Typical reactionary trope: “Sharing is caring” = naive, “Communism always fails” = inevitable.
This is a strawman of Marxism, ignoring the decades of complex analysis about how actually building socialism is hard and often sabotaged by both internal and external forces.
The claim that “every communist society devolved into elites ruling peasants” is historically incomplete and misleading. Yes, bureaucratic degeneration happened, but it wasn’t “communism failing” — it was deformation of socialism under pressures.
Calling China “communist” or not is a common bait-and-switch, but this side tries to say “China is capitalist now, so communism failed.” The other side counters that China is “market socialism,” which is a real, complex hybrid. The truth? It’s a mess, and the debate is nuanced."

LMAO EVEN AN AI KNOW U HAVE NOTHING, i will debate zero name callings. lmk

lol u can have an AI peer review our debate and pls let it see ur analysis " In short:
This conversation is a textbook example of internet pseudo-debate:
One side is trying to school the other on materialist and ecological critiques but keeps getting dragged into name-calling.
The other side is mostly throwing memes, strawmen, and empty skepticism without engaging real political science.
What’s the real deal here?
The first speaker (the Marxist/social science side) is trying to argue from materialism, historical context, ecological science, and political economy.
The second speaker (the skeptic/anti-commie side) is throwing out clichés, dismissing nuanced critique as “meme jabs” and “childish.”
Both sides seem stuck in the “internet debate” loop — trying to dunk on the other rather than building a solid argument."

yeah u really got to learn more, u just skipped environmental science for that analysis ? get serious LMAO u dont know it. or anything related to it, and ur replies will forever show that. we can mic up tho and i can show u better than i can tell you my discord is @reallyMARXIST lol. let me hear how much you know, and i promise you, i will show u you dont understand political science

its been "10 more years" for the past 50 years lmfao

LFMAO social science and natural science hate capitalism, its against literal ecology and our environmental living condition /pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih

ABSTRACT PROFIT ON A FINITE PLANET ? GET SERIOUS capitalism ltieraly cant exist for 10 more years. or HUMANITY WONT... you must dropped out of basic environment science.