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The Great Greenheart Games Gaslighting

25 July - Coe⁧⁧✔️[Quality Control] | 9 Comments

UPDATE:

While they have done a decent enough job of not being powerabusing dipshits so far, they still saw it fit to issue me a fictitious warning for "spreading misinformation" on the forum:

https://i.imgur.com/Cjix7P8.png

This will be a coverage of all the incessant lying, twisting of facts and floods of bullshit that the developers of Game Dev Tycoon & Tavern Keeper has been spewing out in a thread on their forum about Denuvo trying to justify their use of it and ignoring every single piece of contradicting evidence they're presented with. You can read it all here:

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/436780/discussions/0/4525638762700759640/

"Denuvo will not negatively affect their experience with our game."

The game has already been negatively affected due to funding, manpower and time being dedicated to a scam DRM rather than the game itself. Customers have also been affected as it won't be available on GOG due to Denuvo. Additionally, the game won't run on Linux and Mac, performance will be adversely affected and much more.[denuvotruth.blogspot.com]

"You wouldn't believe the number of support requests we get from pirates. You wouldn't believe how entitled pirates get to demand our attention when they didn't even buy our game."

Every Steam game forum has a function that show if someone owns a game or not.[i.imgur.com]

There are additional features that can be turned on such as locking the forums to game owners only so trying to use this as an excuse is just asinine.

" "If Denuvo goes down, the game becomes unplayable." The same would be true for Steam."

Patently false.

"This process is invisible and requires zero interactions. You won't even notice!"

Not being able to play it without a daily internet connection is noticeable. The shit performance is noticeable. Not being able to mod the game is noticeable. Being locked out of it whenever there's a validation issue or when Denuvo's servers are down is noticeable.

"When installing new software or hardware, it's hardly realistic to stay offline"

=Context= They think Denuvo only does online verification when hardware changes.

This is what a Denuvo salesman told them and instead of testing it or doing 30 seconds of research to find out that Denuvo operates on timed locally stored licenses (that can be as short as days), they regurgitate this shit.

"There is no always-online requirement so this unlikely case would only affect un-activated copies and obviously we would solve it ASAP!"

They can do absolutely nothing if a Denuvo server outage occurs outside of removing Denuvo entirely.

"No, not false. You do not have to be always-online."

You have online checks that can be day(s) apart[i.imgur.com] effectively making it always-online compared to games without Denuvo and this can be witnessed every single time Denuvo servers go down.

"if the game doesn't run - for whatever reason! - it's obviously a mission-critical issue for us so it would be the highest priority to restore it."

Since they spent so much time, money and manpower into buying and infecting their game with Denuvo and then arguing about it using false information, one can use basic logic to determine that it is in fact not a mission critical issue for them to have stable customer experiences.

"The claims on system stability and performance are equally false."

No.[denuvotruth.blogspot.com]

"I double-checked with Denuvo."

I'll let ChatGPT answer this one.[i.imgur.com]

"It's very unintrusive."

Denuvo is in fact intrusive and very likely illegal in the EU.[i.imgur.com]

"Countless games use Denuvo Anti-Tamper with millions of happy players."

Ad populum is a fallacy where mistakenly claiming something is true or acceptable just because many people believe or do it, ignoring their prior self-contradicting statement that you "can't notice Denuvo", leaving those "millions of happy players" clueless.

But let's use this logic to see the general consensus on what's good/bad for Tavern Keeper by looking at the forum...[i.imgur.com] Oops.

"Denuvo Anti-Tamper doesn't install anything. It's just part of our game (which itself doesn't install anything apart from the game files), if you remove the game, denuvo is removed too."

Denuvo creates and leaves files behind on the operative system even after the game is removed, as stated on their very own website.[i.imgur.com]

"It's clearly a silly argument to claim that there is a universal truth here."

No one claimed there was an universal truth in the thread. They were simply repeatedly given concrete evidence that they refused to look at and then later tried to falsely sum it up to this.

"The rest of the arguments here (including others) seem to assume arguments we never made."

They were precisely quoted repeatedly[i.imgur.com] and they chose not to respond in any meaningful or specific way.

"But I'm not here to debate - only pointing out facts."

They debated a lot using zero sources & proof and did not point out any facts.

Game Dev Tycoon Context:

1. Same developers as Game Dev Tycoon. As it released, they made a separate version of the game, sabotaged it and put it on piracy/P2P sites.

2. After awhile, they went to multiple press outlets and played the victim & cried about how "93% of players are pirates"... After uploading it themselves to pirates and having it garner more traffic than on Steam (naturally).

https://www.eurogamer.net/game-dev-tycoon-forces-those-who-pirate-the-game-to-unwittingly-fail-from-piracy

3. As this was going on, they hit 2-4 million (legitimately) sold copies and kept trying to play the victim.

4. Now they're creating this second game and infected it with Denuvo.