So to sum it up, Stickybomb Launcher is a mix of both the SR and the quickie.

But since that it's good at both (even than the two weapons sometimes), it needs a balance of some sort.

Even though quickie detonates faster, Stickybomb Launcher still deals more damage.

And even though SR can set traps, they can't be detonated all at once if they're in distances, speaking of distances, if you get too far you can't detonate them either.

And sometimes pushing enemy Stickybombs away is more effective than killing them, especially if you bait the demoman to detonate them and right before that, push it to him. Sure you'll need a lot of stickies but I've seen it happen sometimes.

Originally posted by Duergar:

Originally posted by Milkman:

Listen, I'm not really an expert in telling if a weapon/class is balanced/unbalanced, but I'm pretty sure that if a class's secondary weapon is stronger than the primary weapon (except for the medic) is not balanced.

But stickies are your primary. They're an infinitely more reliable form of damage if your opponents aren't running in straight lines.

Pipes are to Demo what the Shotgun is to Soldier. They're used when you have no time to reload, when you're too close for your primary, and when you've knocked someone into the air (or when you've cut off their movement with stickies). The main difference is that you don't need your Shotgun as Soldier, the Rocket Launcher is strong enough and direct enough that Gunboats or even a banner can be run. Demo doesn't have that luxury by the nature of stickies.

The traps aren't what make it OP but the stickyspam is. Like, you can run both quickiebomb launcher and stickybomb launcher and the results are the same. Both have more clip than all the grenade launchers, both deal alot of devastating damage, there's no reason not to nerf this weapon this summer update.

You need both traps and "stickyspam" situationally, the results absolutely are not the same with the quickiebomb launcher.

It doesn't need further nerfing. He's supposed to be the damage-dealer, and yet he already struggles to be the top damager after the last nerf.

Nerfing his main method of damage just encourages hiding behind traps all game as the way to play Demo, which is infinitely more boring and mindless than "stickyspam" will ever be.

The firing speed fires almost at the same speed of the detonation time. Seriously, throw one and detonate the previous, and this cycle proceeds for 6-8 seconds with a base damage 33% more than the rocket launcher's.

Detting after every sticky only works if every sticky is hitting, and they usually aren't if you can't read minds and your opponents can WASD.

Why isn't the Grenade Launcher a secondary then? That would make more sense.

By "same results" I mean stickyspamming. Stickyspamming with both deals same if not very somewhat-identical results.

The most amount of DPS you can do as demo is laying down 14 crit stickies from the SR and detonating them all at once. They have to be inside each other, if not very near each other, kind of like a tiny circle. That's the highest damage you can deal asides from backstabs from what I know.

Listen, I'm not really an expert in telling if a weapon/class is balanced/unbalanced, but I'm pretty sure that if a class's secondary weapon is stronger than the primary weapon (except for the medic) is not balanced.

The traps aren't what make it OP but the stickyspam is. Like, you can run both quickiebomb launcher and stickybomb launcher and the results are the same. Both have more clip than all the grenade launchers, both deal alot of devastating damage, there's no reason not to nerf this weapon this summer update.

The firing speed fires almost at the same speed of the detonation time. Seriously, throw one and detonate the previous, and this cycle proceeds for 6-8 seconds with a base damage 33% more than the rocket launcher's.

I might be throwing salt here but I want to know if anyone feels the same.

Originally posted by pləbnadər:

B|O|D is a reasonable guy.

Originally posted by MGGAR:AI Robo Jesus "Kingslayer":

BIOD is the best thing to happen to TF2 forums and we totally care about his "PSA'S"

you all first started praising him like it was the second coming of christ and now you're hating on him?

ffs make up your mind.

Originally posted by Alpha Compa:

Originally posted by Kryztal:

Is sad, I approve.

Kryztalz/8

Sorry man, I don't know

Likes being the most xddd aliaser

To Ruffianly Russian:

https://youtu.be/bo5ZVe1LHxU

I micspam this shit too... come around

Originally posted by G_lad:

Drink hot milk.

This probably has a more "effective effect" than drinking coffee, doesn't coffee do the opposite?

During the day my favorite servers are empty af. 12 AM to 6 AM my time though, they're literally filled from 14 servers.

As you can see, shitty time zones.
And as you can guess, I stay up just to play there.

And that basically gives my body an excuse to not sleep.

Someone help me

Originally posted by MGGAR:AI Robo Jesus "Kingslayer":

You deserved it. Another persons wrong does not make your mistake correct. "N*****" is a disgusting racist slur and to use it is to reduce a dark person's entire personality into one horrible word.

My friend calls me an "Alex"