Originally posted by Prusak FRC:

Originally posted by Colonel Cosmetic:

master chief's fatal weakness

Neck snapping (game theory ftw)

Bad youtube channels

Originally posted by Alpha Compa:

Originally posted by Zennock:

I believe we all should have it.

Critz

Random

Originally posted by Zennock:

Originally posted by Pepsiman!:

YER NOT CONTRIBUTING TO ANYTHING!

But if you say that, you're not contributing either.

Savage

Originally posted by Krinkov:

Originally posted by Kazakh brick FRC:

free money

Money grows on trees

1up tree

Originally posted by nicoper:

Originally posted by Ser3nity FRC:

Unfortunately, I do know this word

Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu.

This somehow feels like a legitimate word and not keyboardrape

Originally posted by Dr. Raven:

Originally posted by Milkman AFK:

Why isn't the Grenade Launcher a secondary then? That would make more sense.

Because. No one wants stickybomb demoman with shields that reduce explosive damage. That shit sounds horrifying at worst.

I meant just switching primaries. Shields would be primary. And imo it's more fitting that the Ali Baba's wee booties are a secondary.

Hmm I guess. If the Quickiebomb launcher does get a buff, it's probably another extension in time before fizzling or damage penalty decreasing. But how could valve buff the SR then?

Pyro needs a nerf

Originally posted by Duergar:

If anything, you're making a case for those unlocks to be buffed.

nonononono. They are balanced.

Just nerf the stickybomb launcher in a way where it's to make the alternatives just as viable to use. Don't buff them, but make the stickybomb launcher reach a point where it's just as solid as they are. Giving a weapon best of both worlds shouldn't be alot of what both worlds are. Should be a few. Imo Erick had a general idea. Just give it a clip of 6. It still deals more damage than the quickiebomb launcher and can make traps and stickyspam.

Originally posted by Duergar:

Originally posted by Milkman:

So to sum it up, Stickybomb Launcher is a mix of both the SR and the quickie.

But since that it's good at both (even than the two weapons sometimes), it needs a balance of some sort.

Even though quickie detonates faster, Stickybomb Launcher still deals more damage.

And even though SR can set traps, they can't be detonated all at once if they're in distances, speaking of distances, if you get too far you can't detonate them either.

And sometimes pushing enemy Stickybombs away is more effective than killing them, especially if you bait the demoman to detonate them and right before that, push it to him. Sure you'll need a lot of stickies but I've seen it happen sometimes.

Better than two crappy 'sidegrades' =/= Needs a nerf

It can perform better than two weapons.
That means both of those weapons unsuperior to the stickybomb launcher in some way.

So it's not just "nerf traps, buff spam" or "nerf spam, buff traps".