Originally posted by Geech:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

Ayy, Warcraft 3 quotes (the first two.)

Warcraft 2 as well.

Ah, I need to play that. I own it, but never played it.

Originally posted by Geech:

"Who you wan' me keel?"

"You want axe?"

"Dis... was our land. TROLL land. We Amani was here before anyone! Da' elves and dere Alliance came to drive us out. But we never give up. We never forget...
Da' elves took my eye. I cut off my own arm to escape 'dem... and now, 'de fight alongside da' HORDE?! I SPIT on da' Horde! I hate you, I hate you all... But I got a surprise for ya' now, so come on in...
De' Amani never give up! We never forget. We never die. 'Dis is our land: you wanna stay, you stay here forever! We gonna bury you here."

Ayy, Warcraft 3 quotes (the first two.)

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

There's not enough data for it to be determined how long transgender people live. You're pulling shit out of your ass.

You aren't?

No, I'm not.

I've researched this shit.

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

That's a small percentage. ~1%

What's even smaller is the people who even manage to live that long, as trans.

There's not enough data for it to be determined how long transgender people live. You're pulling shit out of your ass.

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

Except that transitioning DOES help with suicide rates and it's the only effective way to treat gender dysphoria.

The only method we have to fix it is hormones and possibly surgery. Every other method increases suicide risk and nothing else. Transitioning temporarily increases suicide risk but then drastically lowers suicide risk and the person can live a happy life once it's settled.

Until they regret it, much later on in life.

That's a small percentage. ~1%

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

The suicide rate drops down after a while. Much lower than pre-op. That's why gender therapists keep a close eye on them after they transition.

Why not head for the root of the weed and fix it from there?
Look, these people are still mentally ill; and transitioning only encourages it.
This can even go as far as a boy threatening to harm himself with scissors one time.
Even after we've clarified that it is a mental issue, we don't make it better by giving into it.
Lets say that someone's grandfather was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and they thought that the radio was talking to him, so they put him inside of a mental hospital. They didn't tell him that the radio was talking to him to allow him to live a better life — they put him in a hospital and then they gave him lithium, which allowed him to live a better life. Looking for better solutions than transgender surgery [since suicide rates essentially remain static with gender reassignment] would be a better solution than pretending that transgender surgery is the cure for people, and not to be slaves to our own emotions with these given moments in life.

Except that transitioning DOES help with suicide rates and it's the only effective way to treat gender dysphoria.

The only method we have to fix it is hormones and possibly surgery. Every other method increases suicide risk and nothing else. Transitioning temporarily increases suicide risk but then drastically lowers suicide risk and the person can live a happy life once it's settled.

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

According to the DSM, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, but being transgender is not.

The only treatment that works for gender dysphoria is to transition. In nearly all cases all distress is gone, excluding distress caused by other people treating them poorly for being transgender.

don't you love the suicide rates post-op?

The suicide rate drops down after a while. Much lower than pre-op. That's why gender therapists keep a close eye on them after they transition.

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

If your gender is different from your sex, you experience something called gender dysphoria. It causes you to feel distress over your body and can lead to depression and anxiety.

That's why transgender people go to such lengths to transition.

Is this a mental, or neurological problem?

According to the DSM, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, but being transgender is not.

The only treatment that works for gender dysphoria is to transition. In nearly all cases all distress is gone, excluding distress caused by other people treating them poorly for being transgender.

"Please, listen to me. The Archbishop Lazarus, he led us down here to find the lost prince. The bastard led us into a trap! Now everyone is dead...Killed by a Demon he called the Butcher. Avenge us! Find this Butcher and slay him so that our souls may finally rest..."

From Diablo 1.

Originally posted by Goldiecon99:

Originally posted by Unicarn:

Gender is in the head. Sex is in the genitals.

Elaborate.
How does gender "differ" in the head and conflict with literally the rest of the body?

If your gender is different from your sex, you experience something called gender dysphoria. It causes you to feel distress over your body and can lead to depression and anxiety.

That's why transgender people go to such lengths to transition.