Mookieb13 24 Jul @ 8:53am
Censorship ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!
Concerning the removal of NSFW content from content creator platforms such as Itch.IO, Steam, and other platforms containing authors expressing themselves:
Capitulating to the credit card companies over sexual content is worse than banning books from a library for it's content. Fictional works are just that, fictional. Banning it's content base on someone else's conservative views is simply puritanical. It's an infringement on the rights of the authors to express themselves as individuals. In the U.S. it is an infringement of the 1st Amendment.
It would be ok to make safeguards that make security tight around the sales of such content, so that age verification, and rights waivers can be verified before payment is made, but outright banning the content is wrong. Shame on any platform that capitulates to the payment processors in this regard. Shame on the payment processors for capitulating to a single campaign of 70000 people who don't necessarily speak for the other 7 Billion people on the planet.
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I understand more content creators are making videos, which is a very good reason to search before posting as there's dozens of threads about this.
If you are unhappy with Visa or Mastercards decisions, you can contact anyone involved in making that decision from information in this active thread here;
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/0/601910394159768811/

Stores / payment processors are not obligated to do everything a customer wants unless changed by law, and SCOTUS has previously sided with businesses on not having to do things they don't want to associate with.
Last edited by Mad Scientist; 24 Jul @ 10:10am
Originally posted by Mookieb13:
Concerning the removal of NSFW content from content creator platforms such as Itch.IO, Steam, and other platforms containing authors expressing themselves:
Capitulating to the credit card companies over sexual content is worse than banning books from a library for it's content. Fictional works are just that, fictional. Banning it's content base on someone else's conservative views is simply puritanical. It's an infringement on the rights of the authors to express themselves as individuals. In the U.S. it is an infringement of the 1st Amendment.
It would be ok to make safeguards that make security tight around the sales of such content, so that age verification, and rights waivers can be verified before payment is made, but outright banning the content is wrong. Shame on any platform that capitulates to the payment processors in this regard. Shame on the payment processors for capitulating to a single campaign of 70000 people who don't necessarily speak for the other 7 Billion people on the planet.
I am fine with it. Perhaps contact the game developers to see if they are willing to make changes to their games, such as a user has done here
It would seem that Valve is slowly damaging their reputation. And Gabe with his "win by doing nothing" tactic will backfire on him big time...
They need a functional ID system, like everywhere else people purchase porno or adult content.

A credit card is not ID.

Until these specific companies who choose to sell this type of content has a verifiable ID function, the more the hammer is gonna drop.
T9 24 Jul @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by 29933545203998740:
It would seem that Valve is slowly damaging their reputation. And Gabe with his "win by doing nothing" tactic will backfire on him big time...
literally 50 people care
Originally posted by Mad Scientist:
I understand more content creators are making videos, which is a very good reason to search before posting as there's dozens of threads about this.
If you are unhappy with Visa or Mastercards decisions, you can contact anyone involved in making that decision from information in this active thread here;
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/0/601910394159768811/

Stores / payment processors are not obligated to do everything a customer wants unless changed by law, and SCOTUS has previously sided with businesses on not having to do things they don't want to associate with.

Not only that, i think these "content creators" may be blatantly lying to people.

How does a handful of people in Australia, have any say in how trillion dollar companies do their business. A business they may have practiced for the past 30 years.

This has nothing to do with a handful of activists. These sites need to have a verifiable id system if they are going to sell adult content.

If not, don't sell it. And that's what Steam is deciding to do. Not Visa or activists.
Dodece 24 Jul @ 1:56pm 
In this instance even with years of forewarning. This online seller made no effort whatsoever. To effectively childproof their platform. In order to continue selling explicit goods. For years to come. They made this choice long ago.
Shreddy 24 Jul @ 3:09pm 
While I am glad to see some of the smut removed from this family friendly platform it would be better if it could still be sold on an adult platform that can be accessed by adults only with ID checks etc. What we don’t need is far-left feminist groups dictating what can and can’t be sold to members of the public.
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Chaosolous 24 Jul @ 10:12pm 
Should have never hosted porn on a gaming platform.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥: First time?
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
Should have never hosted porn on a gaming platform.
And lose 50% income? Get lost puritans
Originally posted by Shreddy:
While I am glad to see some of the smut removed from this family friendly platform it would be better if it could still be sold on an adult platform that can be accessed by adults only with ID checks etc. What we don’t need is far-left feminist groups dictating what can and can’t be sold to members of the public.
Welcome to internet
Paypal can ban you for no apparent reason
Originally posted by 29933545203998740:
It would seem that Valve is slowly damaging their reputation. And Gabe with his "win by doing nothing" tactic will backfire on him big time...
Ye ye lol as if egs will sell porn
Chaosolous 24 Jul @ 11:00pm 
Originally posted by CadenceThePony:
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
Should have never hosted porn on a gaming platform.
And lose 50% income? Get lost puritans
Well, what's happening now?

It's being banned entirely.

If the weird, disgusting smut had just stayed on the dark parts of the internet where it belongs, maybe you'd still have access to it.

But nooooo, you had to sell it on a gaming platform. Well, reap what you sow.
SDNW 25 Jul @ 3:00am 
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
Originally posted by CadenceThePony:
And lose 50% income? Get lost puritans
Well, what's happening now?

It's being banned entirely.

If the weird, disgusting smut had just stayed on the dark parts of the internet where it belongs, maybe you'd still have access to it.

But nooooo, you had to sell it on a gaming platform. Well, reap what you sow.
1 people still have access to it 2 so any game with sex is bad does it have to show genitals or can the game just imply sex and its bad 3 you like corporate boots that much?
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