There isn't "easy access" to guns. They're expensive (too expensive for a teen in high school, this is an issue with the parents not securing their gun) and there are a few hoops to jump through. You can't just "go buy a gun" like most foreigners think you can.

How about you try to fix your own country's disastrous policies before critiquing another country's issues?

Nice pop culture video

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

Does American serious need better gun control?

No

It's like the unequal the outcomes in life. Communism won't fix it.

Look at family first. Then community. Then decision-making.

Take responsibility, people.

Originally posted by Zero:

There isn't "easy access" to guns. They're expensive (too expensive for a teen in high school, this is an issue with the parents not securing their gun) and there are a few hoops to jump through. You can't just "go buy a gun" like most foreigners think you can.

How about you try to fix your own country's disastrous policies before critiquing another country's issues?

You go tell that to the 13 year old boy who had 23 guns, firework explosives and a mass shooting manifesto, all ready to use on the wall... 9 large boxes of ammo too. He only got arrested beforehand because he bragged about it upon social media posing with photos.

Trump/MAGA seeming all concerned about Charlie Kirk shooting, while not even caring about that and the other school shooting that actually happen upon the very same day. Priority right?

I could care less about Charlie Kirk shooting, because it's an almost daily basis shooting for Americans. That's just utterly sad. You really need to start to address the root cause, rather than keep scapegoating ya utter bs stereotyping.

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

Originally posted by Zero:

There isn't "easy access" to guns. They're expensive (too expensive for a teen in high school, this is an issue with the parents not securing their gun) and there are a few hoops to jump through. You can't just "go buy a gun" like most foreigners think you can.

How about you try to fix your own country's disastrous policies before critiquing another country's issues?

You go tell that to the 13 year old boy who had 23 guns, firework explosives and a mass shooting manifesto, all ready to use on the wall... 9 large boxes of ammo too. He only got arrested beforehand because he bragged about it upon social media posing with photos.

Trump/MAGA seeming all concerned about Charlie Kirk shooting, while not even caring about that and the other school shooting that actually happen upon the very same day. Priority right?

That 13-year-old boy had to have had an adult accomplice or gang ties. "Gun control" will do absolutely nothing to stop people from illegally owning things that are already illegal to own. All it does is punish the people who follow the rules.

Originally posted by Zero:

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

You go tell that to the 13 year old boy who had 23 guns, firework explosives and a mass shooting manifesto, all ready to use on the wall... 9 large boxes of ammo too. He only got arrested beforehand because he bragged about it upon social media posing with photos.

Trump/MAGA seeming all concerned about Charlie Kirk shooting, while not even caring about that and the other school shooting that actually happen upon the very same day. Priority right?

That 13-year-old boy had to have had an adult accomplice or gang ties. "Gun control" will do absolutely nothing to stop people from illegally owning things that are already illegal to own. All it does is punish the people who follow the rules.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Illegals won't follow gun control.

Yet if you see it, you would be better to react?

Its a cultural problem. Media stops covering this stuff and we will stop having copy cats. Easiest way to get on national news and have people hear your opinions is to shoot up a school in America. They all pretended they were going to stop saying their names years ago but they just can't help themselves for those juicy clicks.

Any of us knowing about some loser that killed themselves does nothing but promote an anti-gun narrative. It does nothing to the 2 victims that are alive. I blame the anti-gun movement for its hyper focus on these losers acting as accelerate to this American phenomenon.

Everyone conveniently forgets just to the south is Mexico which is half ran by a drug cartel and has nothing like this problem.

yes why is news making his name famous. now others see they can get famous

Originally posted by HypersleepyNaputunia:

yes why is news making his name famous. now others see they can get famous

Originally posted by El Mythical 23 k.s.c.:

Its a cultural problem. Media stops covering this stuff and we will stop having copy cats. Easiest way to get on national news and have people hear your opinions is to shoot up a school in America. They all pretended they were going to stop saying their names years ago but they just can't help themselves for those juicy clicks.

Any of us knowing about some loser that killed themselves does nothing to promote a anti-gun narrative. Does nothing to the 2 victims that are alive. I blame the anti-gun movement for its hyper focus on these losers as an accelerate to these American phenomenon.

Its like everyone for gets just to the south is Mexico which is half ran by a drug cartel and has nothing like this problem.

I guess media doesn't help promoting the shooter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfdxTZVv0Q

I would recommend naming the victims, rather than the killer. You do make a point there. I still don't like the isolating a shooting with stereotyping involved, when there's many which you can't stereotype the same. It's meaningless hatred, which just leads to more suffering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hpa6MfcY8U

Dang, Disturbed is awesome... they enlightened me and their songs have really deep meaning, if you just care to look. Even how we screw ourselves over.

It helps none of the victims to publicize this. It only helps partisan hacks. This is a local issue that has nothing to do with you. You are literally thousands of miles away.

Originally posted by Azza ☠:

Yeah, that's a good point.

Illegals won't follow gun control.

Yet if you see it, you would be better to react?

The police are kinda useless in the problem areas anyway...I don't know if it's still the current policy, but there was a policy in a certain city in the mid-west that told officers to wait until the gang violence stopped before responding to it, for the sake of officer safety. While I wouldn't want anything to happen to the officers responding...it's kind of their job to go and deal with those things as they're happening BEFORE a bunch of extra people get shot, isn't it?

Originally posted by El Mythical 23 k.s.c.:

It helps none of the victims to publicize this. It only helps partisan hacks. This is a local issue that has nothing to do with you. You are literally thousands of miles away.

You have no idea how much access I have online. Even thousands of miles away.

Originally posted by El Mythical 23 k.s.c.:

It helps none of the victims to publicize this. It only helps partisan hacks. This is a local issue that has nothing to do with you. You are literally thousands of miles away.

It's because people care more about attention and pushing their agendas than being decent human beings. Just look at all the stupid things people have been doing for social media that harms or kills them or others, just for social media attention.

Ban social media and the problem gets severely reduced.

Originally posted by Zero:

Originally posted by El Mythical 23 k.s.c.:

It helps none of the victims to publicize this. It only helps partisan hacks. This is a local issue that has nothing to do with you. You are literally thousands of miles away.

It's because people care more about attention and pushing their agendas than being decent human beings. Just look at all the stupid things people have been doing for social media that harms or kills them or others, just for social media attention.

Ban social media and the problem gets severely reduced.

Agree and disagree...

I don't think it needs to be fully banned, but rather knowledged. I'm not one to censorship, but also not want to overwhelm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBj0-dIU8HI

We get insane amounts of information online, most jumping to assumption before we really even know the facts and evidence. It's overload for most, specially if you can't flush it out.

Where are all these "good guys with guns"?, that's all we need to stop shootings right? Good guys with guns? /s