I can see both sides of this. If you allow homelessness, it's not only an eyesore (sorry), but brings with it violence, theft, and drug use. By allowing them to live this life...well, I wouldn't call that living. Maybe it's a wake up call to use some of the services people pay taxes for to help them get their lives back on track.

Give a man a fish VS teach a man to fish.

A significant proportion of homeless people began as military vets or other 'regular' folks who developed perfectly treatable conditions (mental or physical).

Homelessness can happen extremely rapidly when those conditions go maltreated or untreated due to insurance refusal, medical incompetence, or even just a lack of interest from care providers.

I have personally known probably about a dozen vets (most of them infantry) who ended up homeless either temporarily or long-term because they came back with war injuries, only to discover the VA is an absolute sham.

It really does not take anywhere near as much as most people believe to go from "struggling" to homeless.

As much as this is despicable what Trump is doing, it's very much par for the course for homeless policy. And I would argue that all of these disgraces stem from the toxic public attitude about homelessness in the first place.


But in the end, this is simply what we do in this country. We use people up, throw them away, then tighten up those blinders

Homelessness isn’t a “lifestyle choice” or a simple matter of personal failure. Often the result of systemic neglect, medical crises, and economic injustice. Many homeless people are veterans, people with disabilities, or those who have fallen through gaps in the healthcare and social systems. Criminalizing homelessness doesn’t fix the problems..it just pushing and punishes vulnerability.

Originally posted by Eskimofo:

Give a man a fish VS teach a man to fish.

Build a man a fire, you can keep him warm for the night.
Set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

Originally posted by OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle:

A significant proportion of homeless people began as military vets or other 'regular' folks who developed perfectly treatable conditions (mental or physical).

Homelessness can happen extremely rapidly when those conditions go maltreated or untreated due to insurance refusal, medical incompetence, or even just a lack of interest from care providers.

I have personally known probably about a dozen vets (most of them infantry) who ended up homeless either temporarily or long-term because they came back with war injuries, only to discover the VA is an absolute sham.

It really does not take anywhere near as much as most people believe to go from "struggling" to homeless.

As much as this is despicable what Trump is doing, it's very much par for the course for homeless policy. And I would argue that all of these disgraces stem from the toxic public attitude about homelessness in the first place.


But in the end, this is simply what we do in this country. We use people up, throw them away, then tighten up those blinders

I've read about cases where the person is not physically disabled, and even employed yet, but still can not afford a place to stay. This bit isn't exclusive to the US, and is often enough linked to a housing crisis in the area, where even the average rent is above what plenty enough of these full-time jobs offer.

Trump was like driving past the homeless on the way to use US tax payers money on his golfing and was like dang that's annoying, let's remove them and issue the National Guards too!

When it becomes cheaper to buy a homeless person each their own apartment place to live, rather than imprisoning them like Trump wants to do, which includes ongoing US tax payers money to cover... you know you are just utterly evil inside. You would even rather people suffer, if it costs you more. That is mess up, but hey the Trumpism cult.

The homeless have three options:

1. Get a job.
2. Go to a homeless shelter.
3. Go to a psychiatric center.
4. Go to jail.
5. Live with their parents

We don't want the homeless living on city streets.

Hasn't it always been a crime to be homeless in most major cities?

Doesn't matter anyway. Putting a homeless person in prison costs the government more than just bussing them to another town once they catch them. Which a lot of major cities do.

It's really disheartening how bureaucracy deals with problems so poorly.

Originally posted by kbiz:

3. Go to a psychiatric center.

I h ave only ever seen people come out worse than when they entered.

Originally posted by kbiz:

The homeless have three options:

1. Get a job.
2. Go to a homeless shelter.
3. Go to a psychiatric center.
4. Go to jail.
5. Live with their parents

We don't want the homeless living on city streets.

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Trump didn't make it a crime to be homeless. He doesn't have the authority to create legislation. Encampments are already illegal in most cities.

I think the reason why people are trying to shift the idea of homelessness as a whole is because a lot of people don't have stable housing. They're only a miserably accident away from being on the street. It's just an awful thing to think about. I have more thoughts on this, but it's not really worth discussing as a whole on an internet forum. I am just saying that a lot of people like to think they're fairly separate from individuals who live on the streets, but everyone's got their something. Some people are just luckier than others.

Originally posted by Naedmi:

Hasn't it always been a crime to be homeless in most major cities?

Doesn't matter anyway. Putting a homeless person in prison costs the government more than just bussing them to another town once they catch them. Which a lot of major cities do.

It's really disheartening how bureaucracy deals with problems so poorly.

They are given the option to go to one of the homeless shelters throughout the city.

Originally posted by OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle:

A significant proportion of homeless people began as military vets or other 'regular' folks who developed perfectly treatable conditions (mental or physical).

Homelessness can happen extremely rapidly when those conditions go maltreated or untreated due to insurance refusal, medical incompetence, or even just a lack of interest from care providers.

I have personally known probably about a dozen vets (most of them infantry) who ended up homeless either temporarily or long-term because they came back with war injuries, only to discover the VA is an absolute sham.

It really does not take anywhere near as much as most people believe to go from "struggling" to homeless.

As much as this is despicable what Trump is doing, it's very much par for the course for homeless policy. And I would argue that all of these disgraces stem from the toxic public attitude about homelessness in the first place.


But in the end, this is simply what we do in this country. We use people up, throw them away, then tighten up those blinders

USA likes to invade countries on other continents but doesn't care about the people there nor their vets that come back with PTSD.
USA doesn't care about their own citizens nor wants to care about them. And they happily give a middlefinger to the people they incited to serve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM&list=RDo_l4Ab5FRwM&start_radio=1