Shutdown how?

Republicans run it all. If its shut down, it's because they shut it down.

But let them shut it. ICE, the military, nat guard, nobody gets paid.

Originally posted by Abaddon the Despoiler:

Shutdown how?

by refusing to do there job

I kinda wonder what the logic of it is. So far everytime the opposition party (either side) has triggered a shutdown that party took it in the neck. Add to that I thought DOGE was bad from the lefts point of view.. ..it's usually HARD to fire US FED employees, however layoff's because you don't have the budget to pay them fall into a different category. There is no law statute, or policy that(I am aware of) means you have to fill those positions once govt re-opens. Sure they get 1st refusal if you re-activate the position, but if one doesn't it basically becomes a permanent layoff.b I suspect Musk loves democrats at the moment, as they are more likely to permantely reduce the federal workforce than DOGE ever did or could..

I generaly like (in broad terms from 40k feet) many democratic goals. .. . how they plan to get there often appears like a moron leading an idiot. I swear when my daughter was FIVE she had a better grasp of consequences. /exasperated

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Republicans run it all. If its shut down, it's because they shut it down.

But let them shut it. ICE, the military, nat guard, nobody gets paid.

usa is not monarchy or dictatorship. democrats have power to engage in petty sabotage and interference with governance at the cost of usa citizens.
tells a lot about the democrat party

just look at democrat demands? 1.5 trillion hike when there's a budget deficit? wasting taxpayer money for partisan nonsense?
does not look good in the eye of voters

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

Originally posted by Abaddon the Despoiler:

Shutdown how?

by refusing to do there job

Like Republicans did many, many times before. You are a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Stingray_tm:

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

by refusing to do there job

Like Republicans did many, many times before. You are a hypocrite.

not comparable when look deeper. conservative demands are for benefit of usa citizens
democrat demands ruin economy and only for benefit of themselves.

please think logically about which party represents interest of american people

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Republicans run it all. If its shut down, it's because they shut it down.

But let them shut it. ICE, the military, nat guard, nobody gets paid.

usa is not monarchy or dictatorship. democrats have power to engage in petty sabotage and interference with governance at the cost of usa citizens.
tells a lot about the democrat party

just look at democrat demands? 1.5 trillion hike when there's a budget deficit? wasting taxpayer money for partisan nonsense?
does not look good in the eye of voters

Trump told Republicans "Dont even bother with them" meaning the Democrats.

The Democrats are not in this conversation. The Republicana have the House, Senate, Presidency and the Courts.

If you want ICE, the FBI, our Troops and Border Control getting paid, pay them. If not, don't.

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Republicans run it all. If its shut down, it's because they shut it down.

But let them shut it. ICE, the military, nat guard, nobody gets paid.

usa is not monarchy or dictatorship. democrats have power to engage in petty sabotage and interference with governance at the cost of usa citizens.
tells a lot about the democrat party

just look at democrat demands? 1.5 trillion hike when there's a budget deficit? wasting taxpayer money for partisan nonsense?
does not look good in the eye of voters

Sabotage is treason... just saying.

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

unless
-reinstate free healthcare for non-citizens
-500million for liberal media outlets
-1.5 trillion spending hike
-reopen borders for illegal immigration
-permanently extend biden's costly covid19 credits

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/democrats-threaten-a-shutdown-over-radical-left-insanity/
https://epicforamerica.org/federal-budget/delauro-murray-continuing-resolution-increases-spending-by-nearly-1-5-trillion/

very irresponsible

China is a Dictatorship

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

unless
-reinstate free healthcare for non-citizens
-500million for liberal media outlets
-1.5 trillion spending hike
-reopen borders for illegal immigration
-permanently extend biden's costly covid19 credits

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/democrats-threaten-a-shutdown-over-radical-left-insanity/
https://epicforamerica.org/federal-budget/delauro-murray-continuing-resolution-increases-spending-by-nearly-1-5-trillion/

very irresponsible

According to reputable sources, all Democrats are asking for is the extension of Affordable Care Act credits to keep healthcare affordable for American citizens.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5520645-trump-democrats-funding-showdown/
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/25/trump-healthcare-government-shutdown-congress.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-layoffs-democrats/

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

unless
-reinstate free healthcare for non-citizens
-500million for liberal media outlets
-1.5 trillion spending hike
-reopen borders for illegal immigration
-permanently extend biden's costly covid19 credits

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/democrats-threaten-a-shutdown-over-radical-left-insanity/
https://epicforamerica.org/federal-budget/delauro-murray-continuing-resolution-increases-spending-by-nearly-1-5-trillion/

very irresponsible

Note that the Whitehouse article is *highly* partisan. The likelihood that the information in that article is entirely accurate and free from bias is practically zero.

This is what happens when partisan hacks write "official" documents for the sake of protecting one man's fragile, infantile ego.

There's a bit more to it than just that...

800+ US federal government members currently have voted towards having no pay what-so-ever and a government shutdown, if it would stop Trump's American Autocracy / abuse of power.

Even willing to sacrifice for the real America. Much respect.

They are suggesting a temporary suffer over Trump's long term suffering. Trump has pushed his American Autocracy too far and even broken US Laws / US Constitution to try do so.

Yet it's up to Trump himself if they are going to have the US Government shutdown or not. Trump even cancelled having meetings with them. He's at fault. Trump won't even address the current US Health Care Crisis for the US Citizens. Instead he would rather threaten more mass layoffs (if DOGE wasn't a failure enough).

Couldnt the ds instead reinstate free healrh for citizens instead
Spend the 500 mil media money on citizens food benefits
Provide citizens with an inflation check to compensate for printing 1.5 trillion paper dollars

You can tell OP is all about those continuing resolutions.