actually just debunked this in my own post. i believe people are falsely blaming cheats when in reality there are glaring bugs with certain guns

if you are thinking that the amount of cheaters are all above 15k then you should try to remember about those who hide it to only see how long it'll last before they get banned. other than that we already suspected the cheaters being used for trust factor/ admin abuse anyone can do the math nevertheless without the help of admins things could be worst but yeah maybe too big of a job to get it done right, only god knows.

At low elo it is correct. as you deal with a lot of players and you aren't likely to encounter cheaters if you are just a 5k ELO player or so

But 15k/20k and above? that's where it becomes a massive issue and it has to be addressed. I think that CS is the only game in existence of where people switch to a completely different MM service (FACEIT) just to play at a higher level

Na.....
Cheaters every match in every mode.😘

Originally posted by Ciuc:

Na.....
Cheaters every match in every mode.😘

This is a great example. This is just nonsense. Why do you do this?

I assume in most cases the issues come not from cheaters.

It is mix of bad network code in CS, tickrate stuff and advancing high pingers.
Plus combination with server loads and internet package looses.
This all lead into bad behaivor, where players (when unlucky) receive damage when out of target and the oposit hiting while the player is already out of the target.
Replays look ofter wired, jumping cross and instant death on the other side.

Simply, if ping deviation >10ms, the players playing in different 'time zones'.
The higher the ping; the higher bonus by server. Exception until certain high ping, where the latency cause too much disadvantage.
The tickrate is used to resync the time zones, but advances the slower player by ignoring the faster player inputs on the other side.

I think valve need to rework the match making, to match players with equal pings +/- 5ms and increase the tickrates or adjust to average ping of the players.
Also improvement of protocols needed to lower impact of package loose and server overloads.
But not sure, package lose may also related to general internet traffic load problems these days.

Originally posted by Suspector:

I assume in most cases the issues come not from cheaters.

It is mix of bad network code in CS, tickrate stuff and advancing high pingers.
Plus combination with server loads and internet package looses.
This all lead into bad behaivor, where players (when unlucky) receive damage when out of target and the oposit hiting while the player is already out of the target.
Replays look ofter wired, jumping cross and instant death on the other side.

Simply, if ping deviation >10ms, the players playing in different 'time zones'.
The higher the ping; the higher bonus by server. Exception until certain high ping, where the latency cause too much disadvantage.
The tickrate is used to resync the time zones, but advances the slower player by ignoring the faster player inputs on the other side.

I think valve need to rework the match making, to match players with equal pings +/- 5ms and increase the tickrates or adjust to average ping of the players.
Also improvement of protocols needed to lower impact of package loose and server overloads.
But not sure, package lose may also related to general internet traffic load problems these days.

true and also the known ak bug

YES 100%

Nope, not at all. And I have no idea why people are trying to negate the problem, all the current situation does is pushing our belowed players away from the game.

Originally posted by Uni:

Nope, not at all. And I have no idea why people are trying to negate the problem, all the current situation does is pushing our belowed players away from the game.

Well why do you do it?

Originally posted by Jzson:

true and also the known ak bug

It’s not that hard to get used to the AK-47’s "RNG"; with a bit of practice, you actually get the hang of it.

Originally posted by wanetage:

Originally posted by Jzson:

true and also the known ak bug

It’s not that hard to get used to the AK-47’s "RNG"; with a bit of practice, you actually get the hang of it.

yea it's unfortunate that they made it so easy to effectively cheat (since the ak is known to be bugged and using it is effectively cheating)

In Silver ranks you might be called a cheater just because they throw a bad flash (that won't make you blind), rush you and die.
And 1000 other idiotic accuses.

At high ranks people at least have an idea how actual cheaters look like.

I’m a silver and I rarely see cheaters

Originally posted by snowman:

I’m a silver and I rarely see cheaters

Because cheating in silver makes no sense. People buy accounts and cheat on them from the get go and get ranked higher than silver. GNM+ there's like a 75% chance there's a cheater in the lobby. When I solo queue it's seems more like 90% and 50/50 whether or not they're on my team and I can never kick them cause they duo queue. It's getting unbearable to play honestly.

Watching higher ranked players play the game will open your eyes to how many cheaters are really in the game. I watch an EU streamer who's typically 24k and he gets a cheater 9 times out of 10. He gets lucky though with the fact that they're always russian bots who can't play the game even with cheats.

Originally posted by Rize:

In Silver ranks you might be called a cheater just because they throw a bad flash (that won't make you blind), rush you and die.
And 1000 other idiotic accuses.

At high ranks people at least have an idea how actual cheaters look like.

It's pretty obvious when someone is cheating if you've been playing for a while, there's a lot of factors at play and they tend to all go completely out the window when someone is cheating. Even if they're closet cheating their plays will be way too perfect to be reasonable.

Anyone denying the cheating problem in this game is either not skilled enough to get into lobbies with them (sub 15k premier or gnm in comp), hasn't done any research on cs cheats or is lying to your face and probably a cheater themselves (because we know cheaters get off to gas lighting people).