In the off chance anyone else is new to the series like I am, the Master is the commander of the stage and must be protected or the battle fails. S/he can use powers to aid the Servants, but is not actively playable (except in the Hub, where the Master is controlled by the player).

master would have insta died if he went into battle lol
hes a mid mage
no way he can stand against a servant

Originally posted by King Of Lolis:

master would have insta died if he went into battle lol
hes a mid mage
no way he can stand against a servant

I'm extremely new to this series so I didn't even know the context of Mage, Servant or anything else until yesterday. So it makes a bit more sense now than when I first asked the question. I'm liking what I've seen so far, though.

Originally posted by sWX:

Originally posted by King Of Lolis:

master would have insta died if he went into battle lol
hes a mid mage
no way he can stand against a servant

I'm extremely new to this series so I didn't even know the context of Mage, Servant or anything else until yesterday. So it makes a bit more sense now than when I first asked the question. I'm liking what I've seen so far, though.

should watch Fate/zero or Fate/stay night unlimited blades work
those explain what is what
this series is a bit more confusing

ps if you need more info or help, ask away
i read,watched and read almost all fate parts

Thanks for the recommendation.

As for questions, I do have a few hopefully non-spoilery ones if you don't mind explaining:

Firstly, do the Servants know that they are based on real people (and don't think they actually ARE the real people)? Unless I'm wrong, this world is a simulation of sorts, right? Or are the Servants somehow considered the actual reincarnations of the original figures?

Secondly, some of the Servants seem to be based on figures of the opposite gender. Does this timeline operate on a different reality than ours where figures like Nero Claudius were women? If not, do the Servants ever consider (or care) about the fact that they 'came back to life' (so to speak) as a different gender?

Finally, is everyone we encounter a simulation/AI? Are the Masters real people in a real world but with their minds 'uploaded' into this one (like the Matrix)? Or is everyone just code?

Servants are heroic spirits,basically ghosts of real legends.
They know and are the legends you know of. Normally they talk about their past when they are alive or master dreams some parts of their past and reverse,servants can dream of masters life.

No different timeline. They just genderbend the characters. Lore is history potrayed them as male while they were hiding their true gender to be female like Arthur or Nero.
Only one whos from different universe is Miyamoto Musashi,she travels through different worlds so shes not from ours.
Or they could be a vessel, human giving body for a hero to use, 2 souls 1 body.
Like Jeanne D'arc or Van Gogh.
Some even genderbend themselves like Da Vinci.

Masters are real. Extella is just set on moon for some reason and you are the last master.
Extella games are sequels to Fate/Extra btw.

Originally posted by King Of Lolis:

Servants are heroic spirits,basically ghosts of real legends.
They know and are the legends you know of. Normally they talk about their past when they are alive or master dreams some parts of their past and reverse,servants can dream of masters life.

No different timeline. They just genderbend the characters. Lore is history potrayed them as male while they were hiding their true gender to be female like Arthur or Nero.
Only one whos from different universe is Miyamoto Musashi,she travels through different worlds so shes not from ours.
Or they could be a vessel, human giving body for a hero to use, 2 souls 1 body.
Like Jeanne D'arc or Van Gogh.
Some even genderbend themselves like Da Vinci.

Masters are real. Extella is just set on moon for some reason and you are the last master.
Extella games are sequels to Fate/Extra btw.

Thanks for all the info, that helps in understanding what's going on in the game when I haven't seen any other material.

So they actually ARE the historical figures, and have all of their memories. That's kinda more interesting than just being based on them. Doesn't make sense to me how they hid their supposed true gender back in the super olden times, though, but whatever.

But regarding Masters, the one in this game is the last one? What happens when s/he dies? Can more Masters be made, or is that the end of their 'line'?

They probably hid their gender by magic. For example king arthur/artoria most likely had a ♥♥♥♥ grown for a while by her wizard merlin. This isnt even a joke because mordred exists there and shes son of artoria and morgan. Disturbing lore lol.

Last master. If they die its basically over. Servants dissapear and the moon stops working i guess.
All other masters died in the holy grail war in fate/extra and you met some of them personally

Only some servants are actual spirits. Others are just "whatever was close enough XDDD" like Sasaki. And the system takes liberties. The gender thing was just the writer wanting a cool magical sword chick and then she became far and away the most popular character in the entire verse so now they do it with other characters and often offer absolutely no justification since Fate has long-since degraded into a fanservice series.
Paul Bunyan is an example of this. He's just a young girl because that gets you more horny male players than if he was a buff dude.

Originally posted by Arc:

Only some servants are actual spirits. Others are just "whatever was close enough XDDD" like Sasaki. And the system takes liberties. The gender thing was just the writer wanting a cool magical sword chick and then she became far and away the most popular character in the entire verse so now they do it with other characters and often offer absolutely no justification since Fate has long-since degraded into a fanservice series.
Paul Bunyan is an example of this. He's just a young girl because that gets you more horny male players than if he was a buff dude.

Lol, this also makes a lot of sense. It's probably a combination of how both of you described it.

You say it degraded over time, and it's not that I don't believe you, but I'm curious how it was different in the beginning. Are there specific things you could mention or did it just sort of feel like it was losing its heart as time went on?

Meh at start Fate series had good plots as to why genderbend a servant while now its just for the sake of it because fans will always simp for female servants so its better to genderbend them.
But thats the gacha game doing it where they will pay with actual money if servant is female despite being fully male in the past.
Like van gogh or jing ke.

Example
Old servants hid their gender because society wouldnt have accepted a girl as a ruler.

New servants are genderbend because why not.
Like god of love Kama choosing a girl as vessel just because why not

Basically series became more thirsty ovee the years sadly

Originally posted by sWX:

Originally posted by Arc:

Only some servants are actual spirits. Others are just "whatever was close enough XDDD" like Sasaki. And the system takes liberties. The gender thing was just the writer wanting a cool magical sword chick and then she became far and away the most popular character in the entire verse so now they do it with other characters and often offer absolutely no justification since Fate has long-since degraded into a fanservice series.
Paul Bunyan is an example of this. He's just a young girl because that gets you more horny male players than if he was a buff dude.

Lol, this also makes a lot of sense. It's probably a combination of how both of you described it.

You say it degraded over time, and it's not that I don't believe you, but I'm curious how it was different in the beginning. Are there specific things you could mention or did it just sort of feel like it was losing its heart as time went on?

Fate is part of a long-running multiverse that had a little bit of porn to help it sell.
Now its soft-core porn with half the historical figures being underaged girls and has an anime about a girl who looks 11 constantly sexually assaulting her friend with the thinly veiled justification of needing mana (the same reason used for sex in Fate with Artorias, except with her it made some degree of sense since her Master was a crap mage and couldn't transfer mana properly; in that anime the little girl has a damned womb tattoo ffs).
It turned from a series telling us stories about flawed characters to a series about flawed characters (pre-fate) to a series about flawed characters working with idealized manifestations of the most notable people in history (fate) to playing a mary sue with the super power of instantly being liked by everyone while tons of pretty boys and girls and boygirls (ie Astolfo) fawn over you.
The only character I can even think of who actually justifies this for real is Caenis, who was both a male and female in his origin myth.

Dang, that's not at all what I was expecting when I first started playing what seemed like a little Musou game about AI that thought they were kings of yore. That's a lot of stuff to take in