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Mongol The Unwise 30 Mar, 2019 @ 7:12am
Possible to raise max unit number or remove the limit?
Pretty much what title says, i wanna make huge battle simulations, but just cant have enough troops for my liking on the field in the editor
Last edited by Mongol The Unwise; 30 Mar, 2019 @ 7:12am
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Mongol The Unwise 30 Mar, 2019 @ 10:24am 
Ive tried both adding new groups into the mission.xml file, and adding more troops into the groups, neither seem to work at all. It still only spawns max 18 squads
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shogomad 30 Mar, 2019 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Darth Mongol The Unwise:
Ive tried both adding new groups into the mission.xml file, and adding more troops into the groups, neither seem to work at all. It still only spawns max 18 squads
I love the ToW games and it's good to see someone interested in tweaking the game, is it only infantry or can it be tanks? I was able to get around 250 infantry to work in ToW3 but can't get it to work in ToW2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrPVFV4jdE4
I was able to get a huge Tank battle to work,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEZMtooABo
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Mongol The Unwise 30 Mar, 2019 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by shogomad:
Originally posted by Darth Mongol The Unwise:
Ive tried both adding new groups into the mission.xml file, and adding more troops into the groups, neither seem to work at all. It still only spawns max 18 squads
I love the ToW games and it's good to see someone interested in tweaking the game, is it only infantry or can it be tanks? I was able to get around 250 infantry to work in ToW3 but can't get it to work in ToW2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrPVFV4jdE4
I was able to get a huge Tank battle to work,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEZMtooABo

Could it be that the limit is higher for the ToW3 game? Even 250 isnt that much but much better, of courseI might consider buying it instead of playing ToW2
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shogomad 30 Mar, 2019 @ 12:42pm 
Hello, I do think each game has it's limits but I also think your PC has something to do with it . I just got a mission to start in ToW2Kursk with 30 squads(antitank and infantry), but it only played for about 5-6 minutes before it CTD. ToW3 is OK(limited variety of units) but my favorites are ToW2Africa and Kursk.
Last edited by shogomad; 30 Mar, 2019 @ 12:50pm
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shogomad 30 Mar, 2019 @ 12:45pm 
If your looking for hundreds and hundreds of units fighting I don't think the ToW games will work for you.
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Mongol The Unwise 30 Mar, 2019 @ 12:51pm 
The mission editor simply says "too many units" if i try to go over 18 squads of infantry per team
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shogomad 30 Mar, 2019 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Darth Mongol The Unwise:
The mission editor simply says "too many units" if i try to go over 18 squads of infantry per team
Right, I forgot you were using the mission editor. Well that's safer (not the # of units you want), the way I do it is to change stuff in the mission files which is time consuming and can lead to unwanted CTD. Here is the 30 squads in ToW2Kursk,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFC3WvFhSCk&feature=youtu.be
Last edited by shogomad; 30 Mar, 2019 @ 1:01pm
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Mongol The Unwise 30 Mar, 2019 @ 1:02pm 
So how exactly did you do this? As i explained i attempted adding more units into the squads and adding more squads, but it just didnt work. Adding more squads crashed the mission while loading, and adding more troops to squads seemingly just did nothing, i tried both enemies and my own side
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shogomad 30 Mar, 2019 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Darth Mongol The Unwise:
So how exactly did you do this? As i explained i attempted adding more units into the squads and adding more squads, but it just didnt work. Adding more squads crashed the mission while loading, and adding more troops to squads seemingly just did nothing, i tried both enemies and my own side

To add more units you have change the starting money(to make sure you have enough to spend),
</points>
<arrays />
<ArmyComposition>
<Cost>2700</Cost>
<Outdated />
<Permission>

The # of units you can use for that mission,

<Permission>
<CompoundFilter>
<Places>6</Places>
<filter>
<Classification>DETACHMENT</Classification>
<Country>GER</Country>
</filter>
</CompoundFilter>
<CompoundFilter>
<Places>6</Places>
<filter>
<Classification>TANKS</Classification>
</filter>
</CompoundFilter>
<CompoundFilter>
<Places>4</Places>
<filter>
<Classification>ARMOREDCAR</Classification>
</filter>
</CompoundFilter>
<CompoundFilter>

The # of locations on the setup grid(when you start) for each unit,
</Placeholder>
<Placeholder>
<Classification>TANKS</Classification>
<Point>1794.057 862.7332</Point>
<Azimut>151.7</Azimut>
</Placeholder>
<Placeholder>
<Classification>ARTILLERY</Classification>
<Point>1799.819 881.0599</Point>
<Azimut>149.3</Azimut>
</Placeholder>
<Placeholder>
<Classification>ARTILLERY</Classification>
<Point>1786.133 840.8557</Point>
<Azimut>165.8</Azimut>
</Placeholder>
<Placeholder>
<Classification>CAR</Classification>
<Point>1689.104 906.5566</Point>
<Azimut>137.5</Azimut>
</Placeholder>
<Placeholder>

and then the units,
<groups>
<group>
<Name>ReservGroup</Name>
<Sleep>False</Sleep>
<unit blocked="False" blockedcrew="False">
<Name>sdkfz_232_8rad_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>606</UnitID>
<FullName>armoredcar/ger/sdkfz_232_8rad_afrika</FullName>
<Point>1782.2 918.9435</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<CrewSetName>Main</CrewSetName>
<CrewSetLevel>veteran</CrewSetLevel>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>Mixed</Name>
</BackpackSet>
<group>
<Name>Main_52</Name>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>607</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>commander</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>feldwebel</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1786 919</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>SubMachineGun_MP_40</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>608</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>driver</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>gefreiter</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1782 923</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>Luger_P08_2xM_39</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>609</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>loader</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>gefreiter</Rank>
<Level>regular</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1778 919</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>Luger_P08_2xM_39</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>610</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>shooter</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>obergefreiter</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1782 915</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>Walter_P38_2xM_39</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
</group>
</unit>
</group>
<group>
In your case it would be,
</group>
<group>
<Name>ReservGroup_3</Name>
<Sleep>False</Sleep>
<unit blocked="False" blockedcrew="False">
<Name>afrika_tank_destroyer_detachment43</Name>
<UnitID>617</UnitID>
<FullName>detachment/ger/afrika_tank_destroyer_detachment43</FullName>
<Point>1795.913 932.6578</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<CrewSetName>Main</CrewSetName>
<CrewSetLevel>veteran</CrewSetLevel>
<group>
<Name>Main_60</Name>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>670</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>commander</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>unteroffizier</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1799 932</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>SubMachineGun_MP_40_7xMag_2xM_39_2xM_24</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>671</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>infantry</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>schutze</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1798 935</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>ATR_pzb39_walter_p38</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>672</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>infantry</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>schutze</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1795 936</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>infantry_for_ATRpzb39_Rifle_Mauser_K98k_grenade_M39</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>673</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>infantry</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>schutze</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1792 934</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>ATR_pzb39_walter_p38</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>674</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>infantry</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>schutze</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1792 930</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>infantry_for_ATRpzb39_Rifle_Mauser_K98k_grenade_M39</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>675</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>infantry</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>schutze</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1795 928</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>ATR_pzb39_walter_p38</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
<unit>
<Name>ger_infantry_afrika</Name>
<UnitID>676</UnitID>
<FullName>human/ger/infantry_afrika</FullName>
<Job>infantry</Job>
<Person>
<PresetName>Name.Ger.Male</PresetName>
<PresetLastName>LastName.Ger.Male</PresetLastName>
</Person>
<Skills>
<Leadership>-1</Leadership>
<Driver>-1</Driver>
<Gunlayer>-1</Gunlayer>
<Scout>-1</Scout>
<Accuracy>-1</Accuracy>
<Intelligence>-1</Intelligence>
<Experience>-1</Experience>
<ExperienceBattle>-1</ExperienceBattle>
<ExperienceBonus>-1</ExperienceBonus>
<ExperiencePrevMission>-1</ExperiencePrevMission>
<Rank>schutze</Rank>
<Level>veteran</Level>
</Skills>
<Point>1798 929</Point>
<Azimut>176.7</Azimut>
<BackpackSet>
<Name>infantry_for_ATRpzb39_Rifle_Mauser_K98k_grenade_M39</Name>
</BackpackSet>
</unit>
</group>
</unit>
</group>
<group>

For the enemy you just have to do the last part. You do have to watch where you add them(enemy) because of when they show up in the game.

Basically that's it. I've been doing it for years but it can be very time consuming. Lucky for me I really enjoy doing it.

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Mongol The Unwise 30 Mar, 2019 @ 2:13pm 
Whoa thats way too much work for me to actually enjoy it. Im backing out at this point, but thanks for the information regardless. Possible it will come useful to someone else
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shogomad 30 Mar, 2019 @ 4:44pm 
Yeah it can be. It's mostly copy/paste once you get the hang of it. It took me about 10 minutes to change the file to make that video but yeah it can be a little much.
Cheers!
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lx 26 Dec, 2019 @ 4:09am 
what hardware are you using to allow you to wish for huge battle simulations?
mine, which is exceeding the recommendations by far, is struggling to give playable performance in vanilla game.
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Mongol The Unwise 26 Dec, 2019 @ 6:30am 
Maybe my PC can handle it so well because i mostly play infantry vs infantry with only a few panzers around, thats just the way i like

Certainly isnt because of my pc, woodbox is older than my sister's elder dog
Last edited by Mongol The Unwise; 26 Dec, 2019 @ 6:31am
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Gunho 25 Aug, 2020 @ 4:20am 
perseverance is key, i'm so looking forward to editing my own forces maybe give myself 20 valentine tanks so when they fire it will sound like soda pop. lol thanks for the editing advice i love this game and all the others from the series, if only someone could make a trainer
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