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The silksong wait.
It has been 5 years and I have lost a great amount of respect for this company.
HK has sold 6.4 million copies, they have plenty of money to hire people in order to make production go faster.
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More people doesnt mean better game, or even faster game. Team cherry is specifically an indie game company, because thats how they work. Its like a company replacing the reasons game was good in the first place, team cherry are 3 people, because this way they can organize better. Why would it make it faster? Assuming the problem is ideas, then its either not gonna speed up, or they gonna have bad ideas. If its programming, then more problems to organize. Team cherry is less of a company, and more of group of "friends", though im not sure of how team cherry feels. But no, this makes no sense. Team cherry isnt a machine that needs more manpower, its a machine thats already working as intended, time is still needed.
This isnt the first time someone says this. Im pretty sure if team cherry wouldnt accept other people, even if they were experienced and wanted no pay. Theyre doing good as intended, give it time.
And many games take far longer, if the problem is lack of communication, then its either them beign oo focused on silksong, or stress from 3 people thinking they would make a small game, that then turned into the most popular game of a subgenre, and one of the most universally loved games ever.
I have two massive clues to why Silksong development is taking so long: A new game engine or it's too much work designing the Silksong art for just three people.

After examining the Silksong trailer for PS5, I discovered that the trailer for the PS5 looks completely different the trailer for Steam. The graphics went from the Steam trailer's highly-detailed to about the same as Hollow Knight's.

I have two explanations for this:

Explanation (1): Team Cherry switched from Unity to UE5 or some other engine because Unity made it so that when someone buys Silksong, Unity will not only tax money for just the purchase of Silksong, but also every time that person downloads Silksong.
This means that Team Cherry could actually loose money on the game.

Explanation (2): Team Cherry simply thought that the game was just too detailed and needed to downgrade the graphics to cut development time. This is a pretty reasonable answer, as Ari is really the only person making the art for Silksong. That would be a lot of work for just one guy.
Naposledy upravil MondoDookinly; 18. říj. v 18.57
Also, I think that Team Cherry doesn't want to hire more people because those hired people wouldn't have the same visions and ideas for Silksong. Plus, like ThePureVessel said, more devs doesn't mean faster development time or a better game.
The only thing I really have a problem with in this whole situation is the lack of communication from Team Cherry. It would be nice to get a "Hey gang, still working on Silksong. Development's going great!" or something like that. Even saying this, I still believe that we as whiny and impatient Silksong fans have to remember that we have no idea what is going on with Team Cherry and their personal lives. The last few years have been really hard and stressful for everyone, especially for the lives of game developers who are trying to create a sequel to one of the best games of all time.
Naposledy upravil MondoDookinly; 18. říj. v 18.59
One more thing. The PS5 trailer didn't show anything about the new quests, towns, etc. This could just be because TC didn't want to spoil anything or (this is my worst fear) TC completely scrapped the new individual quest thing and the multiple towns thing.
Allllllsoooo, the PS5 trailer is a huge reason Silksong isn't dead. That trailer was launched just a few months ago.
MondoDookinly původně napsal:
The only thing I really have a problem with in this whole situation is the lack of communication from Team Cherry. It would be nice to get a "Hey gang, still working on Silksong. Development's going great!" or something like that. Even saying this, I still believe that we as whiny and impatient Silksong fans have to remember that we have no idea what is going on with Team Cherry and their personal lives. The last few years have been really hard and stressful for everyone, especially for the lives of game developers who are trying to create a sequel to one of the best games of all time.
They have written they are still working on it. But lack of communication could be either due to working on the game too much, stress from probably about a million people waiting for silksong while they expected a small game. Example, this post. Really high expectations, and also be fast. They gave a lot of news at the start, but the release date was wrong, maybe they are unsure of the progress of the game, and so dont want to give false hope.
silksong comes out tomorrow:steambored:
dylanwenk21 původně napsal:
silksong comes out tomorrow:steambored:
No. It will come out 32 december.
From what I figured, the main issue of Team Cherry is that they "care too much" about the game. If Hollow Knight is anything to go by, by how they kept pumping out more and more content for it, they treat their projects like their babies. And with people now aiming their sights on their new release, they treat Silksong as their cherished baby that must be protected and nurtured at all cost.

So essentially, you have a bunch of artists produce a piece? They'd never be really satisfied, and burn and toss perfectly good artworks, just because "it's not good enough".
That's my head-canon.

But it definitely doesn't help that they don't communicate anything for ♥♥♥♥.
I'm surprised they still have a following.
Soli původně napsal:
From what I figured, the main issue of Team Cherry is that they "care too much" about the game. If Hollow Knight is anything to go by, by how they kept pumping out more and more content for it, they treat their projects like their babies. And with people now aiming their sights on their new release, they treat Silksong as their cherished baby that must be protected and nurtured at all cost.

So essentially, you have a bunch of artists produce a piece? They'd never be really satisfied, and burn and toss perfectly good artworks, just because "it's not good enough".
That's my head-canon.

But it definitely doesn't help that they don't communicate anything for ♥♥♥♥.
I'm surprised they still have a following.
Not really. They bought a trademark for another game. They are getting tired of hollow knight, and it makes sense. And also for this, they seem to have another problem, which is they have no idea when theyre gonna finish. It was more than a year ago they planned for another game, so they think theyre close, especially due to the age rating, they always thought the game is almost finished, but for some reason choose to delay it.
Soli původně napsal:
I'm surprised they still have a following.
As for this, team cherry is very loved. They made a very loved game as their first game, with only 3 people, gave it several free dlcs, and this https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/eyi0uh/i_talked_with_team_cherry_tonight/. As well as them beign pretty nice to people who met them. Im more surprised people start to hate them merely for not giving news. We dont know problems they have that may cause this, and straight up hating someone for not giving news about something theyre spending years of their life for is pretty surprising.
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Soli původně napsal:
I'm surprised they still have a following.
As for this, team cherry is very loved. They made a very loved game as their first game, with only 3 people, gave it several free dlcs, and this https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/eyi0uh/i_talked_with_team_cherry_tonight/. As well as them beign pretty nice to people who met them. Im more surprised people start to hate them merely for not giving news. We dont know problems they have that may cause this, and straight up hating someone for not giving news about something theyre spending years of their life for is pretty surprising.
Note, they actually made the character. His name his seth.
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