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Kamiyama 16 hours ago
Preparing for the upcoming Japanese Derby legends race
According to the timeline at honse.moe starting on August 16th a new legends race will begin. It will be the Japanese Derby, and beating the legends race will earn you shards for Winning Ticket, Vodka, and Tokai Teio (Pure Joy).

I've been wanting the pure joy skin for Tokai Teio for a while, and spent a stupid amount of money on the gacha just to end up not winning. This will be my chance, and everyone else's, to earn some shards for Tokai Teio if you don't already have him.

https://youtu.be/SopqbxkO00A

To prepare for the legends race, I'm going to try and breed a character who has S rank for medium distance, and S rank for pace chasing (because I have lots of pace chasers), with as many stats as I can cram into him. To start off with I'll be trying to make legacy characters with pink sparks, and before the 16th hopefully I can have some parents who will boost my veteran racer up to S rank and easily win the legends race.

If you're a newbie and are interested in any of these characters, you have a chance to prepare for the legends race and start earning some free character shards.

If anyone has useful tips to help with spark farming, please post them here. I am always happy to learn more.
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Kamiyama 12 hours ago 
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3543023330

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3543024055

I have a two parents that have medium sparks and turf sparks. I think I'm going to keep running Special Week with these parents until I get a special week with pace chaser sparks.

I'm going to keep mixing parents with medium sparks, pace chaser sparks, and turf sparks until I get a veteran with multiple S rankings.

From what I've read, having duplicate grandparents is okay. The same grandparent on your "mother" and "fathers" side doesn't cause any penalty? They still contribute affinity level and inspiration events still roll on their sparks.

However it seems there is a penalty if you are your own grandparent,

https://www.reddit.com/r/UmaMusume/comments/123uqfd/guideoverview_to_inheritance_farming_or_how_to/

Apparently it's called the "Futurama Penalty" and if you are your own grandparent it significantly decreases any chances of inheriting a spark from that side of your family.

In short:
inbreeding is okay
temporal paradoxes are not okay
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cyranal 9 hours ago 
I like the effort you're putting into this but it sounds more like you're gearing up for Champions Meeting than just the regular Legend Races. :) Although, if you aren't consistently making A class racers in career mode, they can be a challenge early in the game. I guess if I had to give any advice for people that are struggling with these legend races, I would recommend buying green skills during careers if you have some extra skill points to spare. These are the few situations where the green skills are actually worthwhile to have to boost a stat that you may be short on. But you have to buy the correct skills to match the course and track. Don't buy Non-Core Distance stamina if you plan to run the Japanese Derby which is a Core Distance track.

If we're going by JP history, the minimum stats you'll probably need are 800+ speed, 700+ stamina (less with skills) and 600+ power to compete against all three racers. Obviously you can't skimp on Guts and Wisdom either so you can get by with around 400 for each. If you're building racers for Champions Meeting that already have these stats, you'll probably be okay for these Legend Races.
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AnonTwo 9 hours ago 
Worst possible conditions (soft terrain, awful mood, pace chaser) expect 900 stamina with Maestro to beat a 2400 outside career mode

Best possible conditions (ice cream for great mood, firm condition, late surger) it's 765 stamina with maestro

Maestro is highly consistent, but you should also be able to use consistent golds like Gourmand, Race Planner, and the gold after-school stroll (goldship's potential 4). Any of these would lower the stamina requirements by about 200
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Raven 9 hours ago 
Originally posted by Kamiyama:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3543023330

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3543024055

I have a two parents that have medium sparks and turf sparks. I think I'm going to keep running Special Week with these parents until I get a special week with pace chaser sparks.

I'm going to keep mixing parents with medium sparks, pace chaser sparks, and turf sparks until I get a veteran with multiple S rankings.

From what I've read, having duplicate grandparents is okay. The same grandparent on your "mother" and "fathers" side doesn't cause any penalty? They still contribute affinity level and inspiration events still roll on their sparks.

However it seems there is a penalty if you are your own grandparent,

https://www.reddit.com/r/UmaMusume/comments/123uqfd/guideoverview_to_inheritance_farming_or_how_to/

Apparently it's called the "Futurama Penalty" and if you are your own grandparent it significantly decreases any chances of inheriting a spark from that side of your family.

In short:
inbreeding is okay
temporal paradoxes are not okay


^Just going to point out this is why people did looping early on.

Edit: to explain looping in a nutshell although you should probably read it on gametora, you take 4 umas and then:

1 & 2 raise 3, then 2 & 3 raise 4, then 3 & 4 raise 1, then 4 & 1 raise 2. And you repeat this, replacing them as you get better and better versions.
Last edited by Raven; 9 hours ago
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Aethrys 9 hours ago 
The hardest part of Derby legend race will be deciding if I want Suzuka or Symboli to crush it. Hooray for vodka stars.
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cyranal 8 hours ago 
Originally posted by AnonTwo:
Worst possible conditions (soft terrain, awful mood, pace chaser) expect 900 stamina with Maestro to beat a 2400 outside career mode

Best possible conditions (ice cream for great mood, firm condition, late surger) it's 765 stamina with maestro
The best part about being from the future is that you already know the race conditions ahead of time and so far Cygames hasn't randomized the conditions for any of these first events yet. So you don't need to worry about what the race conditions will be. You can just look them up on the web and prepare accordingly ahead of time. If Cygames ever decides to randomize the events from past history for global then we won't know until the event happens.
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AnonTwo 8 hours ago 
Originally posted by cyranal:
Originally posted by AnonTwo:
Worst possible conditions (soft terrain, awful mood, pace chaser) expect 900 stamina with Maestro to beat a 2400 outside career mode

Best possible conditions (ice cream for great mood, firm condition, late surger) it's 765 stamina with maestro
The best part about being from the future is that you already know the race conditions ahead of time and so far Cygames hasn't randomized the conditions for any of these first events yet. So you don't need to worry about what the race conditions will be. You can just look them up on the web and prepare accordingly ahead of time. If Cygames ever decides to randomize the events from past history for global then we won't know until the event happens.
Ah that's good to know, thanks for the heads up
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BeavisSaves 8 hours ago 
Originally posted by Kamiyama:
Apparently it's called the "Futurama Penalty" and if you are your own grandparent it significantly decreases any chances of inheriting a spark from that side of your family.

In short:
inbreeding is okay
temporal paradoxes are not okay
Fry from Futurama "I'm my own Grandpa": Not good
Br't'sh Royal Family Levels of Inbreeding: OK!!

Good to know
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