Stronghold: Definitive Edition

Stronghold: Definitive Edition

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DuX1112 17 Jul, 2023 @ 8:46pm
Why not remake it in full 3D?
It's 2023, we have (for the most part) decently powerful machines. Why not make it a detailed 3D environment that you can zoom in, rotate, etc.? Maybe even enter first person view? It's possible but... They would rather just run the textures through an AI enhancer or whatever the method. -_-

Ugh.
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Darth Revan 18 Jul, 2023 @ 1:28am 
because a not quite small portion of the community preferes the 2d games over everything they did in 3d afterwards.

there even are a lot of people who say that firefly should stop making 3d games and start making the new stronghold games 2d again.

now i personally prefere 3d games (for me stronghold 2 is the best stronghold game to date) and thankfully firefly said in the past that thair new games will remain 3d.

but this is a definitive edition, not a remake, its in the same vein as the age of empires 1 and 2 definitive editions which also did not turn the games into 3d games.
piotrm2810 21 Jul, 2023 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:
because a not quite small portion of the community preferes the 2d games over everything they did in 3d afterwards.

there even are a lot of people who say that firefly should stop making 3d games and start making the new stronghold games 2d again.

now i personally prefere 3d games (for me stronghold 2 is the best stronghold game to date) and thankfully firefly said in the past that thair new games will remain 3d.

but this is a definitive edition, not a remake, its in the same vein as the age of empires 1 and 2 definitive editions which also did not turn the games into 3d games.
in my opinion the best strongholds curently are

3- stronghold 2
its great game I love economic aspekt of the game and the number of troops and now to make HUGE ECONOMY you need actually be good at the game not like that you are just placing a lot of buildings and selling iron the campaigns are great but the next ones are even better
2- stronghold warlords
its so good. the new mechanics with warlords and unit colision are very good for the game
we have very good new troops like monk's (shut up they were in older strongholds but they work difirent in this game) we also have general and samurais (I love them they are so usefull) they could add more bots for skirmish but existing ones are very good and actually they are very balanced they also the unit collision makes the game so much more clean becouse in past games the more grouped units would won now its not the case
and warlords system is so good that adds anotcher lair of strategy into the game
and then you have probaly one of the best stronghold games campaigns
I mean I can ritually play using chingis chan's horse archers
and the economic campaign is second best economic campaign
1- obviously its STRONGHOLD CRUSADER
that was my childhood and I love that game its just has something in it I mean the skirmish mode was so mind blowing for me when I was younger like I loved how caliph screams at you ,,INFIDEL" when you are attacking him and the skirmish trail is also very good and challenging and then you have historical campaings that I kinda like
like that mission when you are charassed by horse archers and you need to produce the bread and keep your town alive or that mission where you need to fight the snake and then you get rushed by attack fo slingers and slaves
or that mission where you have 2 pigs and they are attacking you at once in one moment of this mission
or the first mission of the first campaign where you need to kill al the slingers to take control in town so you can collect gold they are stuck in my head for so long
also the new units are such nice upgrade to the unit roster like the horse archers and assasins became fan fairvrouts and the game really shines in terms of the new vibe
you have that buityfull desert and the economy is so much faster so the game feals really much more fast paste its so great I HOPE THAT THEY WILL MADE DEFINITIVE EDITION LIKE THEY ARE DOING WITH THE STRONGHOLD 1 NOW
Niko ★ 23 Jul, 2023 @ 3:09am 
God, please make it so that I never read this thread and forget what I saw here.
Joseph 23 Jul, 2023 @ 1:25pm 
bro if they made it full 3d you will be crying why they didn't just upgrade original assets, can't satisfy everyone..take it or leave it
DO NOT MAKE THIS 3D thats what they did for stronghold 2 and even worse SH 3.
Peet 23 Jul, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
cause Stronghold games in 2d still look better :D
BurnBird 28 Jul, 2023 @ 10:18am 
Because I want a good looking Stronghold game for the first time in 15 years.
DuX1112 28 Jul, 2023 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by BurnBird:
Because I want a good looking Stronghold game for the first time in 15 years.

This doesn't look good to me, idk. All they did was upscale the textures and add the ability for 4K screens.
DuX1112 28 Jul, 2023 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Niko ★:
God, please make it so that I never read this thread and forget what I saw here.

We both know 3D is superior, the only problem are the devs who apparently suck at it.
Peet 28 Jul, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by DuX1112:
Originally posted by BurnBird:
Because I want a good looking Stronghold game for the first time in 15 years.

This doesn't look good to me, idk. All they did was upscale the textures and add the ability for 4K screens.
Actually they redraw everything from scratch, but don't mind.
DuX1112 28 Jul, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by Peet:
Originally posted by DuX1112:

This doesn't look good to me, idk. All they did was upscale the textures and add the ability for 4K screens.
Actually they redraw everything from scratch, but don't mind.

Still bad :/
I strongly oppose making it 3D. Take it or leave it
Dusk 5 Aug, 2023 @ 2:24pm 
I oppose the 3D as well - upgrade the sprites. It's a creative direction choice, not a quality limitation these days - 3D Strongholds just don't look as good in my opinion.
Techniclly it would be cool in 3D and First and Third Person, and one other thing your be able to view is the craftmenship of tools, trades and workbenches.

If they did a Remake of this game they could add different workbenches that you can build and craft new items for your units.

Mounts would also be included, horses, dragons, etc
Holy necro...

First of all: there are plenty of 3D games on steam, but Firefly in particular isn't exactly known for having much luck with it.

There are fantastic 2D and 3D games on steam. Usually studios do best by sticking to what they are already good at, a switch from one style to the other often leads to losing your already established fanbase.

Besides, was there really a reason to revive a 2023 topic?
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