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Kibo 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 06분
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Hey, so what's the deal with the toxicity?
I was thinking about getting the game but it seems like complaints about the game's difficulty get dogpiled by sycophants, even if they're not an attempt to change things but merely a means of calming down before trying again.

That seems like a very counterproductive way to act in a community about a game where the difficulty is this infamous. It feels like buying the game would be a waste of money even WITH the sale going on right now because of it- I worry that it's gonna suck all the fun I'd get from it.
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Akemua 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 09분 
Or ignore them and play the game to enjoy it, as it is mainly a single-player game. Problem solved.

If you need help, there are literally thousands of videos and guides that can help you just as much as a single person on a forum, circumventing all contact.

So... Your choice.
Liquidized Soap 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 09분 
It's a single player game with coop. If you play coop you get invaded by tryhards. But you can always summon at the boss door then the tryhards can't get you and you still get your coop. If you don't like Online at all, you can either play in Offline mode or just don't summon. Then that way you don't have to play with anyone and you can have fun on your own terms.
vamirez 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 15분 
Kibo님이 먼저 게시:
I was thinking about getting the game but it seems like complaints about the game's difficulty get dogpiled by sycophants, even if they're not an attempt to change things but merely a means of calming down before trying again.

That seems like a very counterproductive way to act in a community about a game where the difficulty is this infamous. It feels like buying the game would be a waste of money even WITH the sale going on right now because of it- I worry that it's gonna suck all the fun I'd get from it.

Are you for real?

Why do you assume right away that the complaints are valid, and the other side of the argument are sycophants?

Why would anyone assume to lose all the fun from playing because of that before even trying the game?

Wtf?
Sgt. Flaw 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 16분 
The complaints are even more toxic...downgrading devs and overgenerlizing a fanbase..

It's pretty ridiculous to post an "I'm done with this game post" or "♥♥♥♥ these devs" and expect some sort of condolence...

Most threads posted reject advice and are just hissy fits with no real solution...

How is not being able to cry about a game on a forum sucking the fun outta it? And you're talking counter productive.

The toxicity comes from people who complain...not the people actually playing the game and taking at face value. Can't even post a "beat the DLC without summons" thread without gatekeepers coming in and saying how much they dont care or get a life.

You know what..I don't think this games for you..not worth it

It's a good community...if you ask for help...you'll get help...you need a boss beat? People will immediately post willing to take it on...but sitting here having a 10 year old style hissy fit because things don't go your way and insulting the devs and the gaming taste of a fanbase that's been around for years is just asking for trouble
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Coin 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 20분 
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John Titor 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 42분 
Kibo님이 먼저 게시:
Hey, so what's the deal with the toxicity?
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Haru 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 44분 
Kibo님이 먼저 게시:
I was thinking about getting the game but it seems like complaints about the game's difficulty get dogpiled by sycophants, even if they're not an attempt to change things but merely a means of calming down before trying again.

That seems like a very counterproductive way to act in a community about a game where the difficulty is this infamous. It feels like buying the game would be a waste of money even WITH the sale going on right now because of it- I worry that it's gonna suck all the fun I'd get from it.

"What's with the toxicity" - vaguely phrased, immediately followed by -

"Damned Miyazaki penis slurpers! Can't take a lick of criticism or ranting! SO TOXIC!!!"

You're literally the other side of the coin.

Play the game or don't. No one cares.
Nifty 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 44분 
99% of gitgood is getting used to taking g advantage of "difficulty mitigation."

Aka taking advantage of the tools the developer intended.

Suck at casting spells, try light rolling with a quick weapon, suck at rolling try blocking, suck at blocking try deflecting.

Suck at everything try summoning.

Everything is on the table everything is valid.

Least toxic thing I can tell you.

One thing you can't do is cry about difficulty because you refuse to learn the tools available to you.
zero 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 45분 
"this game sucks"->will get dogpilled, insulting someones hobby isn't cool

"im having trouble and its frustrating to me, any tips"->wont get dogpiled, people isn't insulting someones hobby, just having a bad time.

hope this helps understand a very simple system between someone picking a fight and someone doing their best.
Twisty 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 47분 
Back in the day people would buy a game, tell their friends about the game or let their friends try the game.
Some were difficult, some were incredibly fun, others were not so good.
But in the end we played a game because we thought it looked cool or interesting or fun.
I still do this, and while I've be disappointed by a few games I've bought, at least I got to experience them without drowing in negativity or positivity surrounding them. I play games to form my own opinion.
Krazy Wallet 2024년 7월 5일 오후 7시 51분 
The game is amazing and the difficulty is as hard as you make it. If you are hellbent on making your specific build work with daggers, no status effects, 40 vigor, and a blessing level of 0, then yes the game will be extremely hard.

If you approach it with a semi-logical build and an openness to move things around, change talismans, and play to boss' weaknesses, you'll be just fine.
Kibo 2024년 7월 6일 오전 6시 57분 
Sgt. Flaw님이 먼저 게시:
The complaints are even more toxic...downgrading devs and overgenerlizing a fanbase..

It's pretty ridiculous to post an "I'm done with this game post" or "♥♥♥♥ these devs" and expect some sort of condolence...

Most threads posted reject advice and are just hissy fits with no real solution...

How is not being able to cry about a game on a forum sucking the fun outta it? And you're talking counter productive.

The toxicity comes from people who complain...not the people actually playing the game and taking at face value. Can't even post a "beat the DLC without summons" thread without gatekeepers coming in and saying how much they dont care or get a life.

You know what..I don't think this games for you..not worth it

It's a good community...if you ask for help...you'll get help...you need a boss beat? People will immediately post willing to take it on...but sitting here having a 10 year old style hissy fit because things don't go your way and insulting the devs and the gaming taste of a fanbase that's been around for years is just asking for trouble

Then why do people reply to threads complaining about, for example, the Bell Bearing Hunter's difficulty with "It's not OP, you just suck at the game?" Quit licking boots, you're embarrassing yourself.
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vamirez 2024년 7월 6일 오전 7시 00분 
Kibo님이 먼저 게시:
Sgt. Flaw님이 먼저 게시:
The complaints are even more toxic...downgrading devs and overgenerlizing a fanbase..

It's pretty ridiculous to post an "I'm done with this game post" or "♥♥♥♥ these devs" and expect some sort of condolence...

Most threads posted reject advice and are just hissy fits with no real solution...

How is not being able to cry about a game on a forum sucking the fun outta it? And you're talking counter productive.

The toxicity comes from people who complain...not the people actually playing the game and taking at face value. Can't even post a "beat the DLC without summons" thread without gatekeepers coming in and saying how much they dont care or get a life.

You know what..I don't think this games for you..not worth it

It's a good community...if you ask for help...you'll get help...you need a boss beat? People will immediately post willing to take it on...but sitting here having a 10 year old style hissy fit because things don't go your way and insulting the devs and the gaming taste of a fanbase that's been around for years is just asking for trouble

Then why do people reply to threads complaining about the Bell Bearing Hunter's difficulty with "It's not OP, you just suck at the game?" Quit licking boots, you're embarrassing yourself.

Why would anyone not even having played the game yet have a problem with a thread about a very specific enemy in the game? Something smells very fishy here...
Kibo 2024년 7월 6일 오전 7시 03분 
zero님이 먼저 게시:
"this game sucks"->will get dogpilled, insulting someones hobby isn't cool

"im having trouble and its frustrating to me, any tips"->wont get dogpiled, people isn't insulting someones hobby, just having a bad time.

hope this helps understand a very simple system between someone picking a fight and someone doing their best.
Patently false.

Nifty님이 먼저 게시:
99% of gitgood is getting used to taking g advantage of "difficulty mitigation."

Aka taking advantage of the tools the developer intended.

Suck at casting spells, try light rolling with a quick weapon, suck at rolling try blocking, suck at blocking try deflecting.

Suck at everything try summoning.

Everything is on the table everything is valid.

Least toxic thing I can tell you.

One thing you can't do is cry about difficulty because you refuse to learn the tools available to you.

Ah, yes, the exact thing I'm talking about. It's NEVER the dev's fault, even though for the DLC they had to make a map to find things necessary for character progression because they suck so bad at giving the player hints about stuff. What a shameless crotch taster you are.
Lord Bob 2024년 7월 6일 오전 7시 03분 
Kibo님이 먼저 게시:
Sgt. Flaw님이 먼저 게시:
The complaints are even more toxic...downgrading devs and overgenerlizing a fanbase..

It's pretty ridiculous to post an "I'm done with this game post" or "♥♥♥♥ these devs" and expect some sort of condolence...

Most threads posted reject advice and are just hissy fits with no real solution...

How is not being able to cry about a game on a forum sucking the fun outta it? And you're talking counter productive.

The toxicity comes from people who complain...not the people actually playing the game and taking at face value. Can't even post a "beat the DLC without summons" thread without gatekeepers coming in and saying how much they dont care or get a life.

You know what..I don't think this games for you..not worth it

It's a good community...if you ask for help...you'll get help...you need a boss beat? People will immediately post willing to take it on...but sitting here having a 10 year old style hissy fit because things don't go your way and insulting the devs and the gaming taste of a fanbase that's been around for years is just asking for trouble

Then why do people reply to threads complaining about, for example, the Bell Bearing Hunter's difficulty with "It's not OP, you just suck at the game?" Quit licking boots, you're embarrassing yourself.
Because Bell Bearing Hunters are completely trivialized by parrying them, which is a tool every single build can use. Sucking at the game encompasses a lack of skill and knowledge.

This has nothing to do with licking boots, but nice ad hominem right there.
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