None of the mods for any of the Pixel Remasters actually add much in the way of content. They're mostly just avatars, ui changes, font changes, and background changes... Basically just graphic mods. The closest to any content change we've gotten is a mod that adds some weapons and equipment to shops that didn't exist in the PR but were in other builds of the game and that was only done for FF1 so far that I'm aware. If you're wanting content additions and stuff for FF6 you've pretty much gotta stick to the Old PC version of the game.

When you say "old PC version"- do you mean a version available elsewhere, or the original ROM? I haven't used an emulator in years but I imagine they still work. I had always heard how the gameboy versions apparently added a bunch of stuff- had heard some mods might add that stuff back in, but where would I get this "older version" on the pc? I seem to remember that maybe steam (or maybe everywhere) went to the 3ds remaster version. I don't care which version I"m using, the graphical differences are minimal at that point, I just would love to replay these old games with some extra content since i played them so much back in the day that I still have large chunks memorized.
Thanks for any info!

Originally posted by clarkeveritas:

When you say "old PC version"- do you mean a version available elsewhere,

(https://store.steampowered.com/app/382900/FINAL_FANTASY_VI_Old_ver/)

Originally posted by clarkeveritas:

When you say "old PC version"- do you mean a version available elsewhere, or the original ROM?

I meant the PC version they renamed to Old Vers. when the Pixel Remaster came out:

Melodia linked it above. Gotta remove the (), but if I link it directly it just tries to embed the page in the post and says its not available.

Unfortunately it's no longer available to purchase on Steam. You might find a key on some key seller storefront for it I'm not sure, used to still be available on the Square Enix website but I think they finally took it down.

Originally posted by Koby:

None of the mods for any of the Pixel Remasters actually add much in the way of content. They're mostly just avatars, ui changes, font changes, and background changes... Basically just graphic mods. The closest to any content change we've gotten is a mod that adds some weapons and equipment to shops that didn't exist in the PR but were in other builds of the game and that was only done for FF1 so far that I'm aware. If you're wanting content additions and stuff for FF6 you've pretty much gotta stick to the Old PC version of the game.

The vast majority of the PR mods across all PR's are "just" graphics / UI mods, that much is true. I would argue that these still qualify as "content," however the topic creator doesn't care about those types of things for the PR's; therefore, that point is irrelevant in this context.

The small amount of mods that AREN'T just graphics/ui however, I would argue are INCREDIBLY significant. Just peruse the Nexus, or join the Moogles and Mods discord. Rage Descriptions alone turned Gau from someone I never bothered to recruit once optional, let alone use, into one of my favorite characters TO use in all my playthroughs. Translation mods can PROFOUNDLY impact your experience with the game, whether it's your first run through or your millionth. Even "Cheat" things like the in-game sliders or the 3rd party FLiNG trainers, can expand the appeal to those who truly only care about the story, or who might otherwise not want to grind/min-max their stuff. I don't much care for the scenes/content that was censored out in the PR's but there are mods to restore that stuff if you think the game is lacking because of those changes. You can mod out the bright flashing effects of crits in case you're sensitive to that stuff or just don't like it for whatever reason.

I think glossing over all of that, simply because nobody's managed to mod in what "most people" are actually thinking about (whether they admit it or not) when they hear "mods" for the PR's (the bonus / extra content from previous versions), is a PROFOUND mistake.

There's the
• SNES version,
• PS1 version,
• GBA version,
• mobile version (also known as the Old Version - it was a port on PC), and
• Pixel Remaster version.

Originally posted by clarkeveritas:

When you say "old PC version"- do you mean a version available elsewhere,

Originally posted by Melodia:

( https://store.steampowered.com/app/382900/FINAL_FANTASY_VI_Old_ver/ )

The parenthesis mess up the clickability of the URL unless you add spaces between them.
(I just added the spaces.)
The Steam forum software messes up that URL in several ways, (so I made all necessary changes to make it a functioning clickable link.)

(Also, could someone remind me where I can buy a key of the old version? (That is also a secure place to enter card info.) I would like to try the old version, but I couldn't afford it in the past (I can now.))

Don't belive any legitimate stores sell it any more.

I have the old NES (or is it SNES.... think SNES since I think FF3 was on there) version, and been playing the steam version.
But yeah, when I see that there is extra content for some of the old FFs on what looks to be the gameboy version, it would be nice to have that added in to 3/6 (or 2/3, whatever). The games were cool already, having even more goodies would be amazing and I very much doubt the people playing 3/6 are here for the cutting-edge graphics.

Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

Originally posted by clarkeveritas:

... I very much doubt the people playing 3/6 are here for the cutting-edge graphics.

I'm still waiting for Square to make a FFVI remake that has graphics that are at least on-par with the Nintendo DS version remake of FFIII & FFIV.

Not even modern graphics! ...just please, Square Enix, provide a remake with 3D graphics that are at least as good as what a 2007 gaming handheld could support!

They deliberately chose to not make a 3d version with this remake. They wanted it as true to the "original" game as possible.

Which are not "cutting edge graphics." Perhaps I should have said "graphics snobs" or some other term that means "If the game doesnt' look amazing I won't play it".

Originally posted by clarkeveritas:

Which are not "cutting edge graphics." Perhaps I should have said "graphics snobs" or some other term that means "If the game doesnt' look amazing I won't play it".

The thing many people don't seem to or want to understand (not accusing you personally of either, just saying) though, is simple.

SqEn has a finite amount of resources.

They're a publicly traded company and there's an expectation that the company make a profit, both annually and quarterly. When they don't, there's genuine panic in the gaming industry and given SqEn's influence there, in Japan specifically.

With finite resources means that they don't have giant teams of programmers to devote to every single project that people want.

*Could* we have an Octopath style remake of FF1-6? Sure. But they'd have to rebuild and program the game from the ground up with a team of programmers, which takes those people away from developing content from other titles like FF17+. Or DQ 13+. Or .. literally any other franchise they could develop content for that's been languishing without adequate development for years (looks at Xenogears, Tactics, and Front Mission for example).

Plus, the market for those games would be extremely limited. That's why they're publishing DQ3 first. It's one of the most popular entries in THE most popular franchise in their strongest market. If DQ3 doesn't sell well, there's zero chance of a 3d remake of any FF game in the future. If it does, I think we'll see the Zenithian series (DQ 4-6) done after they do DQ 1-2, then they *might* move into FF 1-6.

It's easy to say "Make a 3d remake" but it's not as if one person can do it in a week or two. It's not just a mod. It's a rework from the ground up.

Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

Originally posted by MenjoBleeko:

The thing many people don't seem to or want to understand (not accusing you personally of either, just saying) though, is simple.

SqEn has a finite amount of resources.

They're a publicly traded company and there's an expectation that the company make a profit, both annually and quarterly. When they don't, there's genuine panic in the gaming industry and given SqEn's influence there, in Japan specifically.
...

This is literally why the first Final Fantasy game was called "FINAL fantasy".

They expected it to be the last game that they'd ever make due to the company's finances and sales figures at the time and well... hahaha... "FINAL" fantasy 16 happened.

Originally posted by MenjoBleeko:

...
It's easy to say "Make a 3d remake" but it's not as if one person can do it in a week or two. It's not just a mod. It's a rework from the ground up.

Doesn't mean that it's not something that I still want as a FFVI fan, but that's also why I said this :

Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

... I guess the budget ran out before they were able to extend that project to FFVI. :/ ...

:MrP: clarkveritas also clarified that what they were really referring to is people who won't play the game if its not cutting edge graphics - although that might be worth ruminating on because if they gave FFVI the same treatment as the FFVII Remake Intergrade, it actually would reel in those "graphics snobs". Put in the effort to make a better game and you get better sales, though you might have to cross specific thresholds. So this means we'll never get a 3D game with the chibi 3D style that the DS remakes for III and IV got.

The reality is, the ONLY way we'll ever get a 3D remake of this game at this point is if they decide to go all in like they did with FFVII and no game other than FFVII will get that treatment because it was the one who got to 3D first, and so consequently, none of the games that came before or after have left the impression and sales necessary for them to get the same "hurrah", no matter how good their story and characters were - they were all just "born at the wrong time" to get anything better.

Maybe if Square treated every release as if it was their passionate last one, then things might be different in this regard.

Any Final Fantasy game that Square Enix gives the Remake Intergrade treatment to will do well, I guarantee you, but I don't think they're going to see / realize / believe this.

Remakes don't sell worse just because they're remakes, it's also because of the corners that they cut due to those budgetary concerns, which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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As for what the mods add to this game ...I'll have to get back to you on that. I haven't looked them all up or tried them all yet. I remember there's some for Cyan and Shadow that add a whole new set of moves but I'm not sure how much of that is made up by a fan and how much of it is based in FF canon. A lot of mods were also broken by recent updates.

While your misinterpretation of the origins behind the name is a popular one, it's incorrect all the same.

They originally wanted to call it FIGHTING Fantasy. But, legal issues, risk of copyright lawsuits, etc. So they took a borrowed word and renamed it "Final" Fantasy.

Regarding remakes, the entire reason these PR's were made in the first place was explicitly so that they WOULDN'T have to remake older games for modern hardware. It's on Steam, in Unity, by intentional, explicit, willful choice. They don't WANT to remake these things a billion times more. Full stop. They. Don't. WANT. To.

And so they likely won't, unless their position changes. What might make it change? Probably money, but it'd have to be a LOT of it most likely.

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

While your misinterpretation of the origins behind the name is a popular one, it's incorrect all the same.

They originally wanted to call it FIGHTING Fantasy. But, legal issues, risk of copyright lawsuits, etc. So they took a borrowed word and renamed it "Final" Fantasy.

To be fair, the popular origin story is only partly incorrect. It was Hironobu Sakaguchi, not Square, who considered Final Fantasy as his personal last-ditch effort, if it failed he was going to leave the industry. He settled on Final due to those feelings (though he did say that since they were going for FF, any word starting with F would have worked).