is this remake inferior? I cant seem to find any details. A I better off with the ps2 version?

I guess he means the 18+ content/sex scenes.

Originally posted by reorse:

is this remake inferior? I cant seem to find any details. A I better off with the ps2 version?

its a direct port of the ps2 version which removed r18 content. Finding a copy of the r18 version from 19 years ago which was never localized makes it doubtful honestly.

This remake is the best version of the game. No version of the game has had any R18 content since the 2002 Japanese PC release. If you're just here for porn, you probably wouldn't have the patience to play through a >30 hour VN for a few minutes of R18 scenes, anyway.

Originally posted by Minneyar:

This remake is the best version of the game. No version of the game has had any R18 content since the 2002 Japanese PC release. If you're just here for porn, you probably wouldn't have the patience to play through a >30 hour VN for a few minutes of R18 scenes, anyway.

Original JP version has a fan translation so it is the superior one due to being the only complete version. The west has always ruined games with their puritan censorship.

Originally posted by Waifu Collector:

Originally posted by Minneyar:

This remake is the best version of the game. No version of the game has had any R18 content since the 2002 Japanese PC release. If you're just here for porn, you probably wouldn't have the patience to play through a >30 hour VN for a few minutes of R18 scenes, anyway.

Original JP version has a fan translation so it is the superior one due to being the only complete version. The west has always ruined games with their puritan censorship.

Actually the PS2 version added new characters and reworked the gameplay while removing 18+ scenes that were initially added to sell more copies because that's what independent studios did back then. So even though it removed the latter the better version is the PS2 one, which the remake is based upon, and the West had nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Red:

Originally posted by Waifu Collector:

Original JP version has a fan translation so it is the superior one due to being the only complete version. The west has always ruined games with their puritan censorship.

Actually the PS2 version added new characters and reworked the gameplay while removing 18+ scenes that were initially added to sell more copies because that's what independent studios did back then. So even though it removed the latter the better version is the PS2 one, which the remake is based upon, and the West had nothing to do with it.

you are entitled to your incorrect opinion kek, ill stick with culture over censorship ;)

Originally posted by Waifu Collector:

Originally posted by Red:

Actually the PS2 version added new characters and reworked the gameplay while removing 18+ scenes that were initially added to sell more copies because that's what independent studios did back then. So even though it removed the latter the better version is the PS2 one, which the remake is based upon, and the West had nothing to do with it.

you are entitled to your incorrect opinion kek, ill stick with culture over censorship ;)

All I'll say is: "Hi pot, meet kettle".

Well there is a fansub version of the version for pc with the 18+ content as patch and even voice patch. Dunno how good the translation was since i played many years ago and never finished even XD"
But yeah thats the only way if u wanna get some sex there.

Originally posted by Waifu Collector:

Originally posted by Red:

All I'll say is: "Hi pot, meet kettle".

soy

You could have tried to actually prove me wrong and instead said a more evolved form of "u wrong", but now also show that you very clearly don't know my stance on censorship.

I hold that the original game's 18+ scenes were mostly thrown in because that's what indie studios did to sell more copies, and that their removal was in no way influenced by Western standards unlike most changes asked by platform owners in recent years.
Your turn.

Its sad, that you will play this game because 18+ scenes, this game has much more to offer than h scenes. Argue with culture lol, you are just another virgin who wants to fap. Thats it...

Originally posted by Rise:

Its sad, that you will play this game because 18+ scenes, this game has much more to offer than h scenes. Argue with culture lol, you are just another virgin who wants to fap. Thats it...

You are just another pyj that think 18+ content and adult relationship are only for porn...

As for OP there is another thread about this where people argue about this.
To sum it up people who think censorship is great go on about "i'm right you're wrong" or "lol you just wana fap"
Where people who are agaisnt the censorship explain that removing the 18+ scene make the relationship between Hakuoro and his harem completly different. To wich uncultured people have still not make any point against.


The fantranslation of the 2002 version is near perfect, and way better than the translation of this game where they could'nt even translate the name of the protagonist proprely.

This game is worth buying if you love the series, but wait for a bigger discount.

Originally posted by Minneyar:

This remake is the best version of the game. No version of the game has had any R18 content since the 2002 Japanese PC release. If you're just here for porn, you probably wouldn't have the patience to play through a >30 hour VN for a few minutes of R18 scenes, anyway.

Such a dumb take. Maybe we just appreciate the sex scenes as a way to highlight important parts of the story. Im about halfway through the game and the way the cut out the scenes feels very jarring once you get to them.

Originally posted by Negativeman:

Originally posted by Minneyar:

This remake is the best version of the game. No version of the game has had any R18 content since the 2002 Japanese PC release. If you're just here for porn, you probably wouldn't have the patience to play through a >30 hour VN for a few minutes of R18 scenes, anyway.

Such a dumb take. Maybe we just appreciate the sex scenes as a way to highlight important parts of the story. Im about halfway through the game and the way the cut out the scenes feels very jarring once you get to them.

Genuinely curious, do you have any examples of parts that feel jarring? I could easily see 2 or 3 scenes escalating, more specifically
Touka being tricked into pinning down Hakuowlo, Karulau proposing her allegiance towards Hakuowlo and most of Camyu's night scenes. , none of them feel jarring to me personally though since what's in place feels in character and perfectly plausible.

Just wondering I'm missing that people feel the sex scenes add towards the storytelling (if any beyond personal preference.)

The reason it is jarring is because, the sex scenes in this game had a reason to be there, as Hakuoro was a lord with many women attracted to him, they all had a character to show from the sex scenes and a reason to offer themselves to him.
Eruru is about her deepest feelings for Hakuoro
Yuzuha is about her wishes and acceptance of death
Karura is about her conviction, is how i would word it
Touka is about her inferior and childish knowledge, despite her prowess
The white winged girl (forgot her name) is about her lack of strength, despite stating that she is mature
The black winged girl is about her strange personality and what lies behind it
Not trying to flame anyone with my "Opinion", but yes, the sex scenes had reason to be there, more than H-scenes for the sake of H-scenes.
i dont have the steam remake, but ive played the fan made translation so i can imagine how different the experience would be, then again, some people dont really mind cause apparently the character development is minor according to some, i personally think it needs to be there, cause they are all adults mind you, that kind of thing is normal among lords and concubines.
Also, it somewhat would effect your experience in the next games, cause you meet all of the girls again, and the conversations have connection in character to the earlier game.