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BlackSpawn 31 Jul, 2016 @ 3:07am
Shills massaging Steam Reviews for KF2
I was a little perplexed by what I thought was a quick turnaround of the percentage of positive reviews for the title with relatively little change in actual game content/quality/focus (excepting the nerfing of resistances). I decided to rummage around the reviews and I noticed a very aggressive shill posting in a significant amount of negative reviews and doing several of the following:

-Minimizing the problems with community interactions / unfair forum bans provided to early access supporters
-Half-truths regarding the resistance system, knockback and state of the game
-Congratulating players for updating their reviews
-Nudging players to give the game another chance, change their review or something to that effect
-Occasionally posted factual information related to the reasons poster gave which gained the title a negative review and their current state
-Providing actual technical support to players that couldnt run the game

The individual functioned at the same time as a Quality Analyst/Game Tester (He routinely makes posts on the matter on reddit and Steam and even had a pinned thread on Reddit), provides actual technical support to individuals that have issues running the game, provides positive PR/ marketing spin to the title and company (not unconmmonly at the expense of the truth) and claims to be a regular user.

The most vexing circumstance is that this is the first definite sign I have seen of attempts to manipulate the review system, and this is only some of the things we are privvy to. If there are questions about the fact that there is SOME relationship between this individual and TWI, he is Steam friends with several TWI developers.

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Last edited by BlackSpawn; 12 Aug, 2016 @ 3:48am
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Bigguns 93 31 Jul, 2016 @ 9:24am 
The Most Recent reviews was at mixed and trending toward negative. Now it says Mostly Positive. The number of recent reviews went from 3900 to 900.

Some how the slate was cleared and reset. Worrisome to see that kind of manipulation of the review system.
BlackSpawn 31 Jul, 2016 @ 12:10pm 
I think they only count the ones in the last 30 days for the initial metric of "recent reviews", still.....there is a certain disconnect in how things are playing out on the review front. The oddities started around the time of the last Steam sale, where a bunch of suspicious reviews started popping up. If I find the forum posts on the matter I will paste them here.
Boondoogled 31 Jul, 2016 @ 3:26pm 
I just got this huy commenting on my review too trying to get me to change it, not directly telling me to but implying i should none the less. I'm not changing my review because of the recent comment from TWI about bringing resistenced back and I am 100% opposed to the idea.
BlackSpawn 31 Jul, 2016 @ 5:27pm 
Originally posted by Boondoggle:
I just got this huy commenting on my review too trying to get me to change it, not directly telling me to but implying i should none the less. I'm not changing my review because of the recent comment from TWI about bringing resistenced back and I am 100% opposed to the idea.
As I understand, they never went away..they were just nerfed.
Ellie 31 Jul, 2016 @ 7:56pm 
I honestly wish I could say I was surprised, but with TWI I'm not.
Danatz 1 Aug, 2016 @ 1:31pm 
Oh I've seen that jerk around. What a waster of air that one.
Angrypillow 1 Aug, 2016 @ 6:29pm 
You aren't by any chance talking about that daredevil guy are you? I've seen him all over the place lately and it seems really over the top.
Myrmuz [IRL] 2 Aug, 2016 @ 2:05am 
-Ah the special snowflake with his hyphenated paragraphs.

-Yeah I remember him.

-Just that in itself is annoyoing enough.

-Mr_AT, or some name like that, is another shill. If you hang around the forums long enough you start to see the same names reappearing regularly.
BlackSpawn 3 Aug, 2016 @ 7:03am 
Shill has already deleted some of his comments and is now trying to correct some of the lies he spread. Fun stuffz, quality material. Goes hand by hand with the unannounced introduction of Early Access Free To Play styled microtransactions; same shady colors.
Last edited by BlackSpawn; 3 Aug, 2016 @ 7:40am
RAMBO 7 Aug, 2016 @ 5:36pm 
Damn! How many more of the same posts are there by Dare Devil? I could only tolerate reading half of them. It looks more like spam.
well thx for the invite but i don't think i will ever get this game after reading so many negative posts.Also i do not like the way TWI treats their customers / possible customers by not allowing us to post, banning ppl & removing valid criticism.
Lastly i HATE how they make tonnes of over priced DLC for the 1st game.
BlackSpawn 8 Aug, 2016 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Ouga Das Boodah:
well thx for the invite but i don't think i will ever get this game after reading so many negative posts.Also i do not like the way TWI treats their customers / possible customers by not allowing us to post, banning ppl & removing valid criticism.
Lastly i HATE how they make tonnes of over priced DLC for the 1st game.
I suggest you stay tuned for Full Release.
I agree with some of what you are saying; I still have hope that they will right the wrongs that have transpired.
Only time will tell.
THX blk spawn, i am still sub'd to this discuss so i have my ear listening but my experiences have been that when this stuff starts to happen to dedicated clients then it's always going south, i hope i am wrong.
g, day
Bigguns 93 8 Aug, 2016 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Kuhdelka Charolais:
I see you've included me in here since DD seemed to have congratulated about my review but frankly, I do or did try to keep those updated as the reasons I couldn't recommended KF2 and right now? I'm slowly tempted to take down my review, but not because of shill and such. Latest announcement, they've released information of the perks being changed and while resistances are kinda there still for a bit, VS is very much unplayable still somewhat....I'm just UTTERLY shocked by that post, how TWI is actually *finally* listening. It took about, dunno, some months for them to get in the right gear? Not to mention, zed teleports are hardly frequent now which is, something, I guess.

However, I'm not changing the review, yet. Just because I seen the changes I am convinced, I amnot. I have to test them myself. I also refuse to be in this drama bullshit of sorts. I did not get banned, nor do I want. I just want to be safe, that is all.


Your review should reflect how you feel. It should change when you feel it should. If enough things happen to make you feel they deserve a positive review, then do it.

I am against anyone trying to get someone to change a reveiw. Reveiws should only be changed according to a games current state or a developers current stance.

We post in the forums for discussion of what is good and bad. Going to individual negative reviews and attempting to influence people is wrong and should be stopped. I encourage people to report this behavior to Steam and make it public.
Last edited by Bigguns 93; 8 Aug, 2016 @ 7:46pm
Bigguns 93 8 Aug, 2016 @ 7:49pm 
I wonder what would happen if I started posting all the issues in any positive review to try and get people to change their mind. hmmmm....... I wonder :gameover:
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