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Age of Empires II Renewal Edition (WIP)
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Kayneth 4 Jul, 2017 @ 2:36pm
Does this mod really need all of its content?
Now, i said this before in January too, but let me be more verbose this time around.
What saddens me is that Jenara has worked really hard in making this mod, but the mod fails to achieve its potential because of a prioritisation of content over quality.

Out of all of the mods on the AoE2 Steam Workshop, this is the only one that i feel has only gotten worse as more work has been done on it. I recommend that you show greater confidence in the quality of your OWN work. It doesn't need anything else to go with it (aside from maybe Jorgito's units),

You should remove the terrain, trees, cliffs and buildings. If anyone wants to download Ozhara, Catbarf, Silent Ape or Julian's work, they can do it from the original upload. You are, in effect, poaching subscribers from their orignal work by re-uploading it here as part of your pack.
And please replace the low-quality unit SLP's that don't even match with the rest of the units (Long Swordsman in particular is just horrifying right now, your upcoming Eagle Warrior doesn't look too good, although i do like the new Skirmisher line).

Instead, bring back the real work that you did - the Shotel Warrior, the old Boyar you once uploaded and have now removed, the Condotierro from that isolated mod of yours. The old Genoese Crosbowman this mod had? Your Genitour is easily my favourite thing on the workshop right now. Or look at the new Centurion and Legionary. That was the stuff everyone really liked. And it was top-notch stuff, better than any equivalent on the workshop.

The other way to do it would be to upload individual unit slp's, which is very time-consuming and work-intensive, ofcourse.

Because the real problem is that 'modpacks' like this one only end up limiting the end user's choices. If i want independent architecture with this mod, for instance, i have to to do a lot of manual work, only and only because you've forced architecture of your own choice along with the rest of the content.

Oh, and can you please remove the Colossus as the Italian Wonder? It really ruins the Singleplayer Campaigns where the buildings are set up as show-pieces on the map, and then you find a Greek monument from antiquity in the middle of Milan. There's already a standalone mod for that uploaded by you, so it might not be necessary to do it here.
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Hodayc  [developer] 13 Jul, 2017 @ 1:48am 
Waaaah un grand commentaire. En espérant de bien comprendre. ^^

Well,Well... Sorry I haven't seen this comment

First: The Colossus wonder will be replaced by Florence Cathedral by Julianbaba4.

*Secondly:* My "Renewal Edition" is (for me) a enhanced version of mod AoE2 Graphic Replacement. and Yeah, Renewal it's a modpack because Accumulation of mod is really annoying. (Example: 145 mods bwaaaah !!) + often incompatible (Icons etc..). I am looking for those who do not have too much interest for look for in the workshop. (For First Player install a mod also) (Example: a Friend don t like "arrange" mods correctly so that it is not too inconsistent.
After I have explained how for withdraw Buildings of Oxam and Terrains of Ozhara in Description.

Thirdly: I handed over Shotel Warrior. Because its quality is improved as the Slinger seems better than before. (I had put the skin of the Slinger for a possible sharing of the unity that does not know but I think to keep it ...).Units Uniques of African Kingdoms are good quality but Rise of Rajas and certainly Forgottens Empires. (Example: Condettiero, Imperial Camel, Jinete or Arambai or Rattan Archer) which are very coarse compare Unit of basic game.
However I think I leave the basic Boyar or leave what I have added while waiting for have created my boyar.

Fourth: You don't like my Long Swordsman ? ah :( ,yeah my long swordsman use a bastard sword. (Anderthalbhänder) use 1 or 2 handed. And Particulaty specific for Persian.. I don t like use it with a skin european. (Multiplayer). But If you want to know I will add a shield behind his back. If you don't like this lack of shield. (A bit like me ;P). Eagle warrior it s just a dowgrade of Elite Eagle Warrior of Jorgito and Eagle scout will be a downgrade of my Eagle Warrior but Quality will be there. (but in pause ^^''' ).
It will have changes in the environment. (Hybride etc..).
I repeat but I do everything so that is compatible with the mods I add for a good format.

Fifth... no it's good. ^^
Well, You want a separation of graphic mods and units. I can understand, but I want to finish this mod so that it is very representative of the Workshop of Age of Empire 2. I do not seek to make separate units in each context. Example my Friend Zyth.uDT. {https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/profiles/76561198053996354/myworkshopfiles}.

You can also share it in your own way. ;)
As ✟Guardian1996☭ does with Graphics Overhaul mod.
It is even better that I wait for a separation from my unit line but when it is finished and satisfying. To say, it will still have big change of which line skirmisher example. with my creation. (I'm Single and my life = so long).

I hope to have answered what you expect from me. or not, Tell me.
But Thank you your commentary and I'm waiting for your answer.

Vite avant une coupure de courant D: aaaaah. Ce Pavé César. :steamhappy:
Last edited by Hodayc; 13 Jul, 2017 @ 1:59am
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Kayneth 13 Jul, 2017 @ 3:38am 
Thanks for responding to this. As i understand, you've been busy recently?
  1. I've been using the Florence Cathedral myself. I think it'd be a great addition.

  2. I kind of prefer collecting multiple mods, since it makes it easier to customise between the various mods. Take the terrain from one, the buildings from another. Add some unit mods (although the 50730.slp unit icons cause problems) and you can make the game look precisely how you want.
    With modpacks, you need to find the individual uploads so that you can overwrite the things from that modpack that you don't want.

  3. The Slinger looks great right now, but the older Shotel Warrior looked better than the default one. I hope that you would eventually make new skins for most of the Unique Units; in particular the Elephant units, all of which look too small compared to Jorgito's Elephant re-skin.

  4. What i dislike about the Long Swordsman to be precise is that he look very different from any of the other units of his sword line right now, with more brown than the team colour. This makes him stand out too much.
    I will be looking forward to your Eagle units, though. Ofcourse, it will take time, as you say.

  5. It is your mod ofcourse, i respect the way you want to make it.
    The problem is just that there is no way to get your units aside from subscribing to this mod, and then removing or over-writing what you don't want. You used to have seperate downloads for individual units, ala the Genitour (Jinete), Boyar, Genoese Crossbowman, etc. but those are no longer available.

    All-in-all, i shall be looking forward to your upcoming content. Thanks for your hard work for the AoE community.
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Guardian1996 20 Jul, 2017 @ 3:23pm 
Well, sorry for not mentioning that I used your unit slp's in my modpack... that just kinda slipped my mind. :steamsad: I didn't forget to credit you though. ;)

@Kayneth
It's easier for us to compile a stack of graphics that looks good for ourselves and then upload it... I totally agree with your thoughts though, but @Jenara Hodayc is doing a great job already. (Unit slp's are hard to do right. Tried it, failed miserably... not gonna try again.)
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