State names?

Here is what I'm thinking of right now.

"People's Republic of Byzantium" rolls off the tongue more naturally.

For the naming, to me it seems that the Neutral should be the only one explicitly stating Byzantium, while the rest deviate from it (as would happen if the Empire survived that long).

I'll provide my suggestions along with an explanation why I suggest them.

Fascism = Greece
Fascism_DEF = The Greek National Workers Union
Fascism_ADJ = Greek

Since the Fascists were ethno-nationalist and against "foreign" rule, they likely would have associated the Byzantine royalty as being traitors due to their capital being outside of the core (ancient) Greek realm. They also would have promoted a Greek national identity, as a Roman Empire and Roman People would be foreign ideas according to the Fascist correctionists there.
Of course they'd call the country ΄Ελλας rather than the Latin equivalent of Graecia, but Greece fits as the English translation and would (for English speakers) refer to a more ethnic form of the nation.

Democratic = Hellenic League
Democratic_DEF = The League of Greek Autonomous States
Democratic_ADJ = Hellenic

Since there'd have to have been a movement for liberalization of the government, the concept of a continued Roman Empire would have been weakened to where it would be an unsuitable title for the new Greek regime. It would make more sense that they would harkon to older days when the Greek cities were instead city-states, and thus institute a form of confederacy amonst the provinces. The end result being the Hellenic League. Why Hellenic instead of Greek? Well, if the Byzantine Empire had indeed continued, it would have referred to peoples by names constructed from the regional name rather than areas by people's names (Graecus to Graecia vs Hellenos from Hellas). The use of Hellenic helps seperate it from the more Nationalist form Greece.

Neutrality = Byzantium
Neutrality_DEF = The Byzantine Empire
Neutrality_ADJ = Byzantine

No explanation needed.

Communism = Hellenic Commune
Communism_DEF = The Commune of Greek Socialist States
Communism_ADJ = Hellenic

Similar to the Democratic form, but more as a counterpart. I think the Communist form could also work as a counterpart to the Fascist form aswell, however, since they'd both have to rely of nationalist propaganda and collectivism.


Let me know what you think of these ideas, as the only thing I feel strongly about is the Neutrality_DEF being The Byzantine Empire instead of just Byzantium xD

Make Byzantine's color purple

ScootaCross 님이 먼저 게시:

"People's Republic of Byzantium" rolls off the tongue more naturally.

It does but people's republic shows up a lot.

Apache14 ☭Катюша☭ 님이 먼저 게시:

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A lots of good stuff in there but part of the premise of this mod is hellenic nationalism being usurped by a new roman nationalism with a reborn byzantium instead of survived one.

Neonaziball 님이 먼저 게시:

Make Byzantine's color purple

Done. Though I do need to lighten the icon's color a bit.

Byzantine focus tree?

ObanMark 님이 먼저 게시:

Byzantine focus tree?

I'll be adding one, for Turkey too, but I want to get the 36 and 39 oob's, resources, and industries in order first.

could you put constantine I back on the throne?

Exotic Cashews 님이 먼저 게시:

could you put constantine I back on the throne?

George's father?

I think you should make the facist flag based on a mix of the byzantine eagle
http://www.clker.com/cliparts/a/b/5/7/1247116327648489002CoA_of_the_Byzantine_Empire.svg.hi.png
and the swastika or the golden dawn party of greece which is facist
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ls6AzlkIIYI/UJPdsPpRlTI/AAAAAAAAARw/5YQ7KtLFZ9A/s1600/317563_215001535296589_46020010_n.jpg

anyway great job so far

As an idea, here's a national idea I'm playing with atm:

Spartans = {

allowed = {
always = no
}

allowed_civil_war = {
always = yes
}

removal_cost = -1

picture = generic_pp_unity_bonus

rule = {
}
modifier = {
army_morale_factor = 0.1
send_volunteer_divisions_required = -0.5
send_volunteers_tension = -0.5
send_volunteers_size = 1
}
}

I internationalized it as "Blood Of King Leonidas", but you can come up with anything instead. "Imperial Glory" or "Glory Of Hellas" or whatever.

Really only the morale recovery thing is actually important, and the Greeks did show that when Italy attacked. The rest is just being able to send volunteers even when you don't have many. You know, like Leonidas went off with 300 hoplites. You probably don't want to send half your army off in Spain, with Italy rattling the sabre next door, but you can.

Add generals

I could contribute a few historical ones, if that helps. I can pack them in the game format too.

Might have to get creative about fitting traits, though. E.g., Konstantinos Bakopoulos would be a clear case of defense doctrine, but that's Field Marshall level, and he was only Brigadier General, so it would be a stretch to make him a field marshall. Maybe hill fighter, given where the fight took place?

I'm going to throw an idea out: do we need seperate names for the ideologies? I mean, we would need one for Communism considering most communist movements at the time would not allow an Emperor to play puppet, so would need a seperate name in that case. And for Facist, there could be a trigger when Byz becomes Facist to then allow them to overthrow the Monarch, or keep him, like Italy. If they overthrow him, then they could namechange, but otherwise, stay as is. Just an idea.

BTW, more of a question than actually having a suggestion: do you think Metaxas would still be in power in this scenario? AFAIK he was against the war with Turkey, and if THAT war resulted in the whole national revival and installing the new Emperor, I'd imagine Metaxas would not have much of a reason to be popular.