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[SC-BNB] Big Mitch 11 Aug, 2020 @ 11:20pm
Britain/Faction Balance
I've been playing RobZ quite a lot lately and like it a lot. I have one outstanding issue with it, though. The British faction seems to be severely underpowered relative to the US, USSR, and especially Germany in late game. Having played with, as, and against the UK/Commonwealth, it seems like their armor doesn't really measure up to the other factions' choices (excluding Japan, which is also a bit underwhelming in my opinion). With the 1944-45 settings, it seems like one should only bother to play as the Germans, Russians, or Americans. Not trying to say the mod is bad or anything - it's much better than vanilla in my opinion and has a lot of great features. It's just that the Commonwealth could stand to be a bit more viable as a pick, especially late-game.
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Ryan 12 Aug, 2020 @ 7:41am 
Not all faction should be equal in all stage of the game
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[SC-BNB] Big Mitch 12 Aug, 2020 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Ryan:
Not all faction should be equal in all stage of the game
I never meant to imply they should all be equal at all points in the game. The point I was making was that the UK (and Japan) are really heavily outmatched in both mid and late game, and their early-game strength doesn't make up for this. The US is similarly good compared to the UK in the early game, and doesn't peter out in the same way in the late game, and the USSR is very strong late game without being completely useless in the early game. The German factions also have perfectly acceptable early game units, but have great options in the late game.

No matter whether you're playing as Axis or Allied countries, Japan and the UK are objectively worse than the other factions. Having factions that are, for all intents and purposes, opt-in handicaps, is not good for a fun and varied game experience. It results in games where faction choice, independent of players' aptitude at using the factions, has a meaningful impact on players' odds of victory in the overall game (not merely one phase of it). This isn't good for encouraging people to pick different factions depending on the part of the game they want to focus on, and instead results in a narrow meta where only a portion of the factions are viable against players of similar overall skill.
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Havish 21 Aug, 2020 @ 6:21pm 
I find myself doing just fine as the UK. The only issues late-game are heavy German tanks and the Firelies do fine against them considering their cost. I don't think the UK is worse than the US. The only benefit the US has is the late-game Super Pershing and the (expensive) assault squad. The UK gets very early firelies, good light vehicles and the meme wasp. The US also doesn't have any AT rifles or 20mm cannons which is a pain early game, the 50.cal Browning and AA variant is worse than its comparisons, even the Dshk is way better. I would say the UK has one of the strongest early games alongside the Soviets and makes up for their lack of late heavies.

Japan definitely sucks ♥♥♥♥ though, I'll give you that.
Last edited by Havish; 21 Aug, 2020 @ 6:24pm
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