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Diellan  [developer] 16 Feb, 2019 @ 10:20am
v1.28 Discussion
Next Update Patch Notes:

1.28
**Gameplay:**

* Vanillafied the experience per level table from 1 to 25 levels. Still 35 levels total.

**UI:**

* Added a "Tip of the day" to the loading screen

**Mechanics:**

* Radiant Defenders will no longer lose their upgrades once the corresponding barracks fall.
* Fixed a possible problem that may cause the chosen Ultra difficulty to be ignored and set to Easy instead.

Due to the way how 7.20-7.21 changed the balance, many abilities and items are now vanillafied:

* Abaddon's Curse of Avernus
* Cooldown of Elder Titan's Earth Splitter(100/95/90 to 100)
* Cooldown and manacost of Earth Shaker's Fissure(Cooldown from 15/14/13/12 to 21/19/17/15. Manacost from 100/115/130/145 to 125/140/155/170)
* Radius of Shadow Demon's Soul Catcher(from 150 to 175/200/225/250)
* Cooldown of Chen's Holy Persuasion (from 40/35/30/25 to 15)
* Manacost and damage of Spectre's Spectral Dagger(Manacost from 110/120/130/140 to 100/120/140/160 and damage from 120/200/280/360 to 90/140/190/240)
* Manacost of Disruptor's Static Storm(from 175 to 125/175/225)
* Multicast chances of Ogre Magi's Multicast(2 times from 0/75/50/25% to 0/60/60/60%, 3 times from 0/0/25%/50% to 0/0/30%/30%, 4 times from 0/0/0/25% to 0/0/0/15%)
* Max charges of Earth Spirit's Stone Caller(from 6 to 7)
* Armor reduction of Alchemist's Acid Spray(from 2/4/6/8 to 4/5/6/7)
* Activation delay and ministun duration of Arc Warden's Spark Wraith(Delay from 3.0/2.5/2.0/1.5 to 2.0 and ministun duration from 0.4/0.6/0.8/1.0 to 0.4/0.5/0.6/0.7)
* Cooldown of Bane's Nightmare(from 22/20/18/16 to 22/19/16/13)
* Damage of Witch Doctor's Maledict(from 15/20/25/30 to 16/24/32/40)
* Damage per unit of Legion Commander's Overwhelming Odds(from 8/10/12/14 to 14/16/18/20)
* Bonus damage of Juggernaut's Omni Slash(from 300/450/600 to 30/40/50)
* Damage of Axe's Counterhelix(from 50/80/110/140 to 60/100/140/180)
* Creep duration of Crystal Maiden's Frostbite(from 5/6/7/8 to 10)
* Duration and Scepter duration of Omni Knight's Guardian Angel(duration from 8/10/12 to 6/7/8 and scepter duration from 12/14/16 to 8/9/10)
* Duration of Sand King's Sand Storm(from 10 to 20/25/30/35)
* Arrow count and damage modifier of Medusa's Split Shot(Arrow count from 2/3/4/5 to 3 and damage modifier from 65/70/75/80 to 30/45/60/75)
* Damage of Sniper's Headshot(from 30/55/75/100 to 20/50/80/110)
* Duration of Storm Spirit's Electric Vortex(from 1/2/3/4 to 1.4/2.1/2.8/3.5)
* Splash damage percent of Dragon Knight's Elder Dragon Form(from 50/37.5/25% to 75%)
* Ancient Apparition's Chilling touch.
* Wraith King's Mortal Strike.
* Magic resistance debuff of Ancient Apparition's Ice Vortex(from -10/-15/-20/-25% to -15/-20/-25/-30%)
* Duration of Dazzle's Shallow Grave(from 3.5/4/4.5/5 to 5)
* Damage health percentage of Zeuses Static Field(from 4/5/6/7 to 4/6/8/10)
* Manacost of Brewmaster's Thunder Clap(from 90/105/120/135 to 90/100/110/120)
* Crit multiplier of Brewmaster's Drunken Brawler(from 200 to 170/200/230/260)
* Cleave damage of Sven's Great Cleave(from 15/25/35/45 to 45/60/75/90)
* Burn damage of Abyssal Underlord's Firestorm(from 0.4/0.7/1.0/1.3 to 1/2/3/4)
* Damage bonus duration of Abyssal Underlord's Atrophy Aura(from 30/35/40/45 to 30/40/50/60)
* Duration of Dark Willow's Shadow Realm(from 3 to 5)
* Faceless Void's Timelock
* Necrophoses Heartstopper Aura
* Night Stalker's Crippling Fear
* Skywrath Mage's Concussive Shot
* Cooldown of Urn of Shadows(from 15 to 7)
* Cooldown of Spirit Vessel(from 12 to 7)
* Quelling bonus for melee and ranged heroes on Battle Fury(from 120/110 to 150/125)

**Heroes:**

* Anti-mage:
* * Mana break damage increased from 16/32/48/64 to 28/40/52/64
* Arc Warden:
* * Flux manacost rebalanced from 60/80/100/120 to 75
* * Flux duration increased from 4 to 6
* Bane:
* * Enfeeble cooldown decreased from 12 to 12/10/8/6
* * Enfeeble attack speed reduction increased from 40/60/80/100 to 50/75/100/125
* * Enfeeble manacost rebalanced from 95 to 50/75/100/125
* * Brain Sap cast point reduced from 0.5 to 0.4
* * Fiend's Grip cast point reduced from 0.5 to 0.4
* * Fiend's Grip tick interval reduced from 1 to 0.5
* * Fiend's Grip duration increased from 5 to 6
* Batrider:
* * Firefly cooldown reduced from 30 to 22
* Brood Mother:
* * Spin Web health regeneration increased from 3/5/7/9 to 5/15/25/35
* Bloodseeker:
* * Blood Rite damage increased from 120/180/240/300 to 125/185/245/305
* * Rupture damage percent reduced from 130/245/360% to 6%
* * Thirst bonuses vanillafied.
* Bounty Hunter:
* * Shuriken Toss damage increased from 100/180/260/340 to 150/225/300/375
* * Shuriken Toss bounce increased from 300 to 1200
* * Shuriken Toss cooldown reduced from 12/11/10/9 to 9
* * Shuriken Toss mini stun duration reduced from 0.75 to 0.1
* * Shuriken Toss bounce amount increased from 9 to 40
* Brewmaster:
* * Storm Panda's Cyclone cooldown reduced from 19 to 8(Wildkin horde creeps still have the 19 seconds cooldown spell)
* * Drunken Brawler critical strike reduced from 170/200/230/260% to 140/180/220/260%
* Crystal Maiden:
* * Crystal Nova damage increased from 120/180/250/360 to 130/190/250/360
* Clockwerk:
* * Fixed Power Cogs mana burn and attacks to destroy changes being vanilla or not working at all.
* Chen:
* * Hand of God heal increased from 250/600/950 to 300/650/1000
* Doom:
* * Infernal Blade burn damage increased from 0.5/1/1.5/2% to 1/1.5/2/2.5%
* Disruptor:
* * Thunder Strike damage increased from 40/80/120/160 to 60/100/140/180
* Drow Ranger:
* * Marksmanship chance to instakill a creep is reduced from 20/30/40% to 1/1/2%
* Dark Willow:
* * Bramble Maze cooldown reduced from 30/25/20/15 to 15
* Earth Shaker:
* * Fissure damage increased from 120/200/280/360 to 120/240/360/480
* Enchantress:
* * Enchant cooldown reduced from 40/35/30/25 to 22/18/14/10
* Enigma:
* * Midnight Pulse manacost reduced from 95/110/125/140 to 50/80/110/140
* * Midnight Pulse duration rebalanced from 11 to 9/10/11/12
* * Midnight Pulse damage increased from 1.5/2/2.5/3 to 3.75/4.25/4.75/5.25
* Grimstroke:
* * Added to the hero list
* * Soulbind can now target creeps as a first target(the second target is still required to be a hero, hero creep or a boss)
* Huskar:
* * Life Break damage and cost reduced from 34/39/44% to 32/38/44%
* IO:
* * Relocate cooldown increased from 45/35/25 to 45/40/35
* Shadow Demon:
* * Disruption illusion outgoing damage increased from 30/45/60/75 to 55/70/85/100
* * Disruption illusion duration increased from 8/10/12/14 to 22
* Shadow Shaman:
* * Ether Shock target amount rebalanced from 6/7/8/9 to 5/8/11/14
* Silencer:
* * Last Word cooldown reduced from 18/16/14/12 to 16/14/12/10
* Lion:
* * Finger of Death changes:
* * * Manacost increased from 100/150/200 to 150/260/370
* * * Cooldown increased from 30/25/20 to 50/40/30
* * * Scepter manacost rebalanced from 100/150/200 to 95/150/205
* * * Scepter cooldown rebalanced from 30/25/20 to 36/24/12
* Lone Druid:
* * Restored Spirit Bear's skills to vanilla
* Leshrac:
* * Lightning storm damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 80/155/230/305
* Luna:
* * Fixed Lunar Blessing not granting any bonuses except the vision bonus
* Legion Commander:
* * Duel cooldown reduced from 60 to 50
* Night Stalker:
* * Void ministun is applied only during the night(just like vanilla)
* * Fixed Void not reducing target's attack speed
* * Void attack speed reduction increased from -35 to -50
* * Dark Ascension duration increased from 30 to 40
* * Dark Ascension cooldown reduced from 140/130/120 to 100/95/90
* Naga Siren:
* * Mirror Image damage taken reduced from 350/300/250/200% to 200%
* * Ensnare cast point reduced from 0.65 to 0.6
* * Ensnare duration increased from 2/3/4/5 to 4/5/6/7
* * Ensnare manacost reduced from 90/100/110/120 to 70/80/90/100
* Necrophos:
* * Heartstopper Aura damage increased from 0.5/1/1.5/2 to 0.5/1.1/1.7/2.3
* * Reaper's Scythe cast point increased from 0.5 to 0.55
* Juggernaut:
* * Omnislash:
* * * Fixed bug when ultimate would stop after a first hit.
* * * Attack rate multiplier increased from 1.8 to 2.8/3.0/3.2
* * * Cooldown reduced from 130/120/110 to 80
* * * Scepter cooldown increased from 30 to 40
* Razor:
* * Static Link drain rate decreased from 7/14/21/28 to 5/8/11/14
* * Fixed Unstable Current having vanilla damage
* Rubick:
* * Fade Bolt creep damage reduction increased from 6/12/18/24 to 10/15/20/25
* * Telekinesis stun duration increased from 2.0/2.25/2.5/2.75 to 3.0/3.5/4.0/4.5
* Riki:
* * Tricks of the Trade manacost reduced from 75/100/125 to 75
* * Tricks of the Trade attack interval rebalanced from 0.75/0.5/0.35 to 0.6/0.52/0.44
* Spectre:
* * Spectral Dagger cooldown reduced from 16 to 10/9/8/7
* Spirit Breaker:
* * Nether Strike cooldown reduced from 70/50/30 to 35/25/15
* * Nether Strike Aghanims cooldown reduced from 20/15/10 to 18/12/6
* Storm Spirit:
* * Electric Vortex self-slow reduced from -50 to 0
* Skywrath Mage:
* * Concussive Shot slow radius increased from 250 to 300/350/400/450
* * Concussive Shot damage increased from 70/140/210/280 to 100/180/260/320
* * Concussive Shot creep damage percentage increased from 75% to 100%
* Silencer:
* * Last Word cooldown reduced from 18/16/14/12 to 12/10/8/6
* Templar Assassin:
* * Fixed trap dealing vanilla damage.
* Tidehunter:
* * Ravage cooldown reduced from 150/105/60 to 80/70/60
* Tinker:
* * Heat seeking missile projectile speed reduced from 900 to 700
* Monkey King:
* * Phantasm reworked:
* * * Cooldown increased from 100/80/60 to 130/110/90
* * * Manacost reduced from 125/200/275 to 100
* * * Illusion duration reduced from 60 to 13
* * * Illusion incoming damage increased from 100% to 260%
* * * Invulnerability duration reduced from 0.5 to 0
* * * Aghanims cooldown rebalanced from 80/60/40 to 60
* * * Outgoing damage reduced from 50/75/100% to 20/40/60%
* * * Illusion count increased from 3 to 5/9/14
* * Jingu Mastery bonus damage reduced from 80/120/160/200 to 55/70/85/100
* Mirana:
* * Sacred Arrow speed reduced from 950 to 857
* * Moonlight Shadow duration increased from 3/4/5 to 6/7/8
* Ogre Magi:
* * Ignite damage increased from 30/40/50/60 to 45/60/75/90
* * Multicast 2x chance increased from 0/60/60/60% to 0/70/70/70%
* Omelette Discourager:
* * Arcane Orb splash damage percentage increased from 60% to 100%
* * Arcane Orb no longer requires Aghanim's Scepter to deal splash damage.
* Omni Knight:
* * Guardian Angel radius increased from 1200 to 2200
* Phantom Assassin:
* * Stiffling Dagger duration increased from 1/2/3/4 to 1.75/2.5/3.25/4
* Puck:
* * Increased Waning Rift silence duration from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to 2/2.5/3/3.5
* Dragon Knight:
* * Elder Dragon Form's cooldown reduced from 115/100/85 to 75
* Visage:
* * Familiar Stone Form health regeneration per second increased from 150/175/200 to 550/675/800
* Vengeful Spirit:
* * Magic Missile projectile speed reduced from 1250 to 900
* * Magic Missile stun increased from 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8 to 1.5/1.6/1.7/1.8
* Viper:
* * Poison Attack duration increased from 2 to 3
* * Poison Attack attack speed slow increased from -10/-20/-30/-40 to -25/-30/-35/-40
* * Poison Attack movement speed slow increased from -10/-20/-30/-40 to -25/-30/-35/-40
* Venomancer:
* * Poison Nova scepter damage increased from 60/85/110 to 130/180/230
* Queen of Pain:
* * Scream of Pain Fear Talent duration increased from 1.5 to 3
* * Shadow Strike damage per tick increased from 30/40/50/60 to 30/50/70/90
* Undying:
* * Flesh Golem cooldown reduced from 125 to 75
* * Flesh Golem damage per second reduced from 7% to 3%
* Weaver:
* * Shukuchi damage rebalanced from 75/135/195/255 to 100/150/200/250
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Diellan  [developer] 16 Feb, 2019 @ 10:21am 
**Items:**

* Reorganized the shop to look more vanilla.
* Cursed Rapier:
* * Reduced healing reduction from -65% to -35%
* * Added constant health cost 15hp/s
* Scythe of Vyse removed from the shop.
* Horde Scythe of Vyse:
* * Fixed the building recipe.
* * Mana regeneration increased from 2.25 to 9
* Reworked upgrades for Aether lens:
* * Mana regeneration growth increased from 3/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 to 3/3.5/4/4.5/5
* * Removed spell amplification
* * Increased cast range from 250/300/350/400/450 to 250/375/500/625/750
* Reworked Aghanims Regalia. Now has an active ability called "Grand Spell Boost". Grants 375% spell damage boost for 6 seconds. 150 mana cost. 80 seconds cooldown.
* Slightly reworked Building Upgrade item:
* * Building Upgrade now heals for 15% of max health instead of fixed value of 500. (Tower heal amount stays the same. Less healing for barracks. More healing for the Ancient)
* * Healing is no longer reduced down to 20% of total amount when building has an upgrade to make.
* * Upgraded buildings now have a special "Building upgrades" effect, which displays the current upgrade level as a stack amount.
* * Using a Building Upgrade on buildings with full health and no upgrades left, will no longer consume the Building Upgrade.
* Courier:
* * Increased cost from 5 to 25
* * Reduced restock cooldown from 36000 to 4 seconds
* Exalted Spirit Vessel:
* * Reduced cooldown from 8 to 7
* * Increased health drain to be the same as Spirit Vessel
* * Reduced movement speed bonus from 50% to 12%
* * Increased mana regen from 2 to 5
* Sacred Trident:
* * Increased damage from 80 to 112
* * Reduced attack speed bonus from 80 to 30
* * Increased proc damage from 80 to 100
* * Increased illusion proc damage from 16 to 20
* Refresher Shard:
* * Is now on sale for 2000 gold
* * Stackable
* * Cooldown removed
* Cheese:
* * Is now on sale (once again) for 500 gold
* * Cooldown removed
* Blademail:
* * Restored to the shop
* Tango:
* * Cost reduced from 80 to 45
* Enchanted Mango:
* * Cost reduced from 80 to 30
* Faerie Fire:
* * Cost reduced from 70 to 25
* * Cooldown removed
* Mekansm:
* * Visual range indicator now corresponds to the effect range(from 1200 to 1500)
* Guardian Greaves:
* * Visual range indicator now corresponds to the effect range(from 1200 to 1500)
* * Total mana replenished increased from 200 to 350
* Phase Boots:
* * Removed 1 Blades of attack out of the build recipe
* * Cooldown reduced from 12 to 8
* * Bonus movespeed reduced from 45 to 15
* * Bonus melee damage increased from 24 to 35
* * Bonus attack speed increased from 20 to 30
* * Bonus armor increased from 5 to 6
* * Block damage for melee and ranged heroes increased from 16/8 to 20/9
* * Phased movement speed for melee and ranged heroes reduced from 24/20 to 20/10.
* * Phase duration reduced from 6 to 3
* Exalted Phase Boots:
* * Increased armor amount from 10 to 15
* * Decreased movement speed bonus from 60 to 25
* * Cooldown reduced from 12 to 8
* * Bonus melee and ranged damages increased from 60 to 100
* * Phase duration reduced from 6 to 3
* Eul's Scepter of Divinity:
* * Duration increased from 2.5 to 5.5
* Ethereal Cannon:
* * Enemy duration increased from 3 to 4
* Necronomicon:
* * Summon duration increased from 40/50/60 to 60
* Horde Dagon:
* * Bonus to all stats increased from 3 to 5
* Death Stone:
* * Reduced health regeneration from 7 to 6
* * Bonus mana regen reduced from 7 to 3
* * Added 200% bonus mana regen
* * Added 0.3 HP/MP regen per charge
* Vladmir's Cuirass:
* * Health regeneration bonus removed.
* * Mana regen amount increased from 0.8 to 1.75
* * Aura radius increased from 900 to 1200
* Armor of Insight:
* * Aura radius increased from 900 to 1200
* * Bonus health regeneration increased from 10 to 13
* * Duration increased from 8 to 12 seconds
* Helm of Opressor:
* * Aura radius increased from 900 to 1200
* * Attack speed aura increased from 25 to 30
* Wasp:
* * Removed mention of evasion reduction in the description of the active ability
* * Damage bonus increased from 60 to 63
* Shiva's Armament:
* * Aura radius increased from 900 to 1200
* * Bonus intelligence increased from 44 to 45
* * Bonus health regeneration increased from 5 to 6
* Horde Magic Wand:
* * Bonus stats increased from 2 to 3
* * Passive health regeneration removed
* Heaven's Halberd:
* * Removed Lesser Maim
* Exalted Heaven's Halberd:
* * Removed Lesser Maim
* Sange, Yasha and Kaya:
* * Added more recipes to be buildable out of new combo items(Yasha and Kaya. Kaya and Sange)
* * Removed Greater Maim
* * Damage increased from 16 to 22
* * All stat bonus increased from 16 to 22
* * Attack speed bonus increased from 16 to 22
* * Movement speed percentage bonus swapped for constant bonus from 16% to 50
* * Spell amplification increased from 16% to 22%
* * Manacost/Manaloss reduction increased from 16% to 22%
* Satanic:
* * Cooldown reduced from 35 to 22
* Drum of Endurance:
* * Strenght bonus reduced from 7 to 6
* * Mana regen bonus increased from 0.75 to 1.5
* * Aura removed. Replaced with constant movespeed bonus of 20
* * Active ability radius increased from 900 to 1200
* Exalted Drum of Endurance:
* * Strength bonus reduced from 30 to 25
* * Agility bonus increased from 12 to 25
* * Intelligence bonus increased from 24 to 25
* * Mana regen bonus increased from 2.0 to 4.0
* * Aura removed. Replaced with constant movespeed bonus of 35
* * Endurance's Movement speed bonus increased from 20% to 22%
* Heart of Tarrasque:
* * Changed recipe to Ring of Tarrasque, Vitality Booster, Reaver and a recipe(just like vanilla)
* * Added +50% healing amplification
* Dragon Javelins:
* * Health regeneration increased from 5.5 to 6
* * Mana regeneration increased from 1.5 to 2
* Exalted Echo Sabre:
* * Slow duration increased from 0.7 to 0.8
* Willful Resonance:
* * Removed the recipe. Total cost reduced from 6565 to 5050 (includes Resonant Shard changes).
* * Increased ranged splash damage from 30% to 50%
* * Increased melee splash damage from 50% to 70%
* Resonant Shard:
* * Changed recipe from Blade of Alacrity, Staff of Wizardry, Bracer, Robe of the Magi, Band of Elvenskin to Staff of Wizardry, Blade of Alacrify, Crown and a Belt of Strength. Total cost reduced from 3415 to 2900.
* * Increased ranged splash damage from 30% to 50%
* * Increased melee splash damage from 50% to 70%
* War Fury:
* * Damage bonus decreased from 70 to 66
* * Cleave damage increased from 45% to 66%
* Moonshard:
* * Attack speed increased from 130 to 140
* * Nightvision increased from 300 to 400
* * Consumed nightvision increased from 150 to 200
* Meteor Hammer:
* * Units impact increased from 150 to 250
* * Units burn damage increased from 90 to 120
* * Cooldown reduced from 28 to 22
* Boots of Travel 3:
* * Movement speed bonus increased from 32% to 35%
* Boots of Power:
* * Changed recipe from Power Treads, Bracer/Wraith Band/Null Talisman and different Bracer/Wraith Band/Null Talisman to Power Treads, Crown, Belt of Strength/Band of Elvenskin/Robe of the Magi
* * Movement speed reduced from 60% to 20%
* Boots of Intellect:
* * Movement speed reduced from 60% to 25%
* * Bonus to Intelligence increased from 55 to 61
* * Aura radius increased from 1000 to 1200
* * Increased bonus attack speed from 25 to 30
* Boots of Agility:
* * Movement speed reduced from 60% to 25%
* * Bonus to Agility increased from 55 to 61
* * Increased bonus attack speed from 25 to 30
* Boots of Strenght:
* * Movement speed reduced from 60% to 25%
* * Bonus to Strenght increased from 55 to 61
* * Increased bonus attack speed from 25 to 30
* Exalted Solar Crest:
* * Fixed not granting any bonuses
* * Bonus stats increased from 10 to 25
* * Movespeed bonus increased from 20 to 30
* * Bonus mana regen increased from 3 to 5
* * Target bonus movement speed increased from 10 to 20
* * Target bonus attack speed increased from 70 to 200

**Horde:**

* Fixed Radiant Defender creeps not spawning at horde_2p_ultra map.
* Horde Ultra Skills now have proper descriptions.
* Treant King Boss now have a special Boss grade Living Armor ability, granting 120 stacks of 120 damage block for 30 seconds, with cooldown of 12 seconds.
* Kappapult now has a special kind of Liquid Fire ability(no cooldown, 24 damage per second).
* Archer Boss:
* * Day and Night visions increased greatly
* * Attack range increased slightly
* * Attack speed increased slightly
* Lizard creeps now have a special kind of Slardar's Bash of the Deep(0.3 stun duration)
* Fixed towers not copying attacker's attack range
* Disco Pony Diabolic Edict damage increased from 9/18/27/36 to 11/22/33/44
SleeperCat 17 Feb, 2019 @ 12:39am 
**Enthusiastically rejoices at the new patch** finally waited! After several matches played, as if again plunged into something new and unexplored :D Heh

The good news is that you can now find out by how much one or another tower on the line has been improved with Hammer Upgrade. And the very thought of "Radiant Defenders will no longer lose their upgrades once the corresponding barracks fall." now not so painful for supports in your team, knowing that creeps will also remain reliable. And besides, you can now not be confused with how many times the tower has been improved. For it used to be like - you improved the tower, for example, 4 times with a hammer, and then you forgot with the elapsed time how many times it was improved and you had to count all this on memory and even improve it above the norm when it already had a full improvement. I'm were pleased with the rebalancing of many items and heroes in generally.

And now I will write about the bugs found, or just express my opinion about it (other people's opinion is also welcome):

- "Sange,Yasha and Kaya" (she had an old name "Sange,Yasha and Atos") not give +22% Status Resistance (does not enhance it in the characteristics of the hero)

- About "Cursed Rapier": This item for me has always been controversial in terms of balance and not always liked. In its earliest versions, when this item just appeared, he was not quite playable and killed his owner without the ability to recover from or during the battle. And with this sword, no one went normally. Instead, they always bought "Sacred Trident" as an alternative. Yes, and also very much reduced the attack range, if it was range heroes.

At the moment, now it has more opportunities to maintain the status of the owner by lifesteal and "Heart of Tarrasque" and the higher the damage was, the stronger the damage was caused by the owner of this item. (with patch 7.20 "Lifesteal amount is no longer limited by the current health of the target and uses the full damage you are dealing instead." And this also means that the treatment will be significantly less if the opponents have higher amounts of armor or simply more than the damage of your hero). But I'm not exactly talking about it.

Some heroes like Abbadon and Slark with "Cursed Rapier" very much break the balance of this custom game. They literally save endless damage and destroy all life on the map with one or a couple of blows (these are enemy creatures and buildings). If, for example, for Abbadon needs a lot of expensive items in order to realize such an action with a dishonest game (take talant on "-20% cooldown for all ability and items" ; buy "Heart of Tarrasque" + "Octarine Core" + "Aghanim's Scepter" and + any item to choose from, giving additional attributes or resists), then for Slark it is enough to have with him a passive action from his ultimate ability "Shadow Dance" and buy "Heart of Tarrasque" and not expensive item, like a "Holy Locket" or "Armor of Insight", so that health is always kept on the same mark, when "Cursed Rapier" is on everytime. The rest of the characters will either strongly depend on lifesteam and damage, either like them is simply impossible or difficult to implement. Example, Alchiemist in theory, he can also accumulate similar damage, but he simply can’t be interrupted by declining health when he is active and still needs to be treated from time to time. To maintain non-degradation of health, you need to have about +300-350 hp/sec. I am all to the fact that this item is difficult to balance and I do not know what you will do with it in the future.

-About Drow Ranger: her ultimate ability "Marksmanship" in the old version was quite imbalanced and oneshoted all enemy creatures (except bosses, of course). Now she has a chance of such a shot only 1-2%. And it would seem pretty good, because now there simply won't be such situations. But now the problem is that this ultimate ability without "Aghanim's Scepter" does not make any impact. It is as if this ability does not exist. I have to pray for her to shoted that arrow at least once, or is this hero in my team (teammates on Drow Ranger's) often annoyed like a non-functional. Funny that, that it then continue instapick her, without looking at the patch note, thinking that she is also strong at the expense of her ultimate. For test, I going in lobby, buy 6 "Moon Shards" and started shooting tight targets. This arrow actually takes off after every 40-50 shots. Sometimes with good luck, after 20-30 shots. You can make for her, as an option, the old version "Marksmanship", when which gave her only extra dexterity ( +40/+60/+80 agility) with stored function from "Aghanim's Scepter" ("The arrows of the Drow Ranger split when hit, continuing to fly into random creatures around the target."). Or, depending on the situation, slightly increase her chance of such a shot, for example, from 1% / 1% / 2% to 1% / 2% / 3%. And it's better to just significantly increase the extra damage when triggered from 120 to 250 / 500 / 750 damage.

-Funny fact: "Dragon Javelins" increases attack range for melee heroes :D Not so critical and nothing more.

So far, at the moment there is nothing more to write. I can only say thank you for global change and variety.
Last edited by SleeperCat; 17 Feb, 2019 @ 1:45am
PerseusStoned 22 Feb, 2019 @ 10:17am 
Thanks so much for the update! My friends and I really have a lot of fun playing this mode. A few requests for next update:

1) Medusa + Io is busted with Cursed Rapier right now. We went until like ~90 minutes before getting bored, Medusa was right-clicking for 500k. As long as the Tether remains she just keeps getting damage without any fear of death (which is easy to do if Io picks up Death Stone and Satanic). I see a few other heroes are as well; not sure if this item is good for the game.

2) Clinkz ultimate hasn't worked on anything for awhile. Please let it attack creeps! He would be a lot of fun to play, but right now he is too handicapped to be much good to anyone.

3) Please expand some of the useless item's options. Eul's, Lotus, Glimmer, Necro, Blade Mail, Hurricane Pike/Force Staff, Shadow Blade, Skadi, Blink could all use some love to make them worthwhile to build. You don't have to go the way of Exalted, etc. just interesting combinations would be lots of fun to play around with.
Pory 22 Feb, 2019 @ 2:28pm 
Thanks for update!

Bugs
- Bane: Enfeeble Steals Attack Speed Talent now conflicts with your custom Enfeeble's Damage Reduction. It gives Bane attack speed, still applies -damage to enemies.
- Bloodseeker: Thirst no longer provides bonus Damage, only Attack Speed.
- Clinkz lost his Death Pact Ultimate, and his Burning Army only attacks Enemy Heroes (i.e. does not hit anything).
- Lifestealer lost the AoE damage on his Open Wounds.
- Morphling cannot use his ultimate until he hits level 20.
- Siren's Ensnare no longer deals damage.
- Puck's lvl. 25 talent only affects heroes

Suggestions
- Ancient Apparition: Revert 7.20 changes to Chilling Touch
- Axe: Remove the CD on counter helix
- Batrider: Remove the 50% creep damage penalty (double the bonus from 20/30/40/50 -> 40/60/80/100)
- Bounty Hunter: Revert 7.20 changes to Jinada (lost Crit, doesn't steal gold from Creeps)
- Brewmaster: Reduce cooldown of Primal Split from 140/120/100 to 80/60/40
- Clockwerk: Rocket Flare cooldown reduced from 10 to 10/9/8/7. Hookshot cooldown reduced from 40/30/20 (16) to 20/15/10 (6)
- Death Prophet: Silence duration increased from 3/4/5/6 to 6/8/10/12.
- Disruptor: Thunder Strike number increased from 4 to 5, interval decreased from 2 to 1.5. Cooldown decreased from 18/15/12/9 to 9.
- Earth Spirit: damage on Q/W/E increased to 100/200/300/400 for all 3 abilities.
- Enigma: Eidolon HP increased from 180/200/220/240 to 200/400/600/800.
- Lich: Frost Shield cooldown reduced from 30/25/20/15 to 20/16/12/8. Sinister Gaze cooldown reduced from 30 to 10.
- Lion: Finger of Death damage per stack reduced from 50 to 5. Now gives bonuses for Creeps.
- Necrophos: Death Pulse damage from 100/150/200/250 to 125/200/275/350.
- Night Stalker: Dark Ascension cooldown reduced from 100 to 100/85/70.
- Nyx Assassin: Mana Burn always deals damage regardless of amount of mana burnt.
- Oracle: BAT decreased from 1.4 to 1.1 :)
- Obsidian Destroyer: Equilibrium cooldown decreased from 18 to 12.
- Pudge: Meat Hook cooldown decreased from 27/22/17/12 to 15/14/13/12. Cast range increased from 1300 to 2400 :)
- Sand King: Epicenter cooldown decreased from 100/80/60 to 60/40/20.
- Shadow Demon: Disruption duration decreased from 2.5 to 0.1. Shadow Poison Max Stacks increased from 6 to 10.
- Slark: Dark Pact cooldown decreased from 9/8/7/6 to 6.
- Spirit Breaker: Empowering Haste allows you to break the MS cap.
- Techies: Blast Off! Damage increased from 400/500/600/700 to 400/800/1200/1600.
- Templar Assassin: Meld armor reduction duration increased from 10 to 14.
- Timbersaw: Whirling Death radius increased from 300 to 500, damage increased from 90/120/150/180 to 100/200/300/400. Timber Chain radius increased from 225 to 400, damage increased from 100/140/180/220 to 100/175/250/325.
- Tiny: Tree Grab cooldown decreased from 27/22/17/12 to 15/12/9/6. Lvl. 20 talent decreased from -7s to -4s.
- Treant Protector: Living Armor cooldown decreased from 30/24/18/12 to 15/14/13/12.
- Undying: Summoned Zombies' movement speed increased from 100 to 315.
- Venomancer: Venomous Gale tick interval decreased from 3 to 1.5.
- Warlock: Fatal Bonds cooldown decreased from 18 to 14.
- Winter Wyvern: Cold Embrace duration reduced from 4 to 2. Healing increased from 14/18/22/26 + 3/4/5/6% of max HP to 30/40/50/60 + 8/10/12/14% of max HP.
- Witch Doctor: Paralyzing Cask cooldown decreased from 20/18/16/14 to 15/14/13/12.

- Would it be possible to get the Frosthaven spells for the following heroes: Centaur (return gives +STR when activated), Earthshaker (Aftershock Totem), Huskar (AoE Burning Spears, Self-Health%-based Ult), Magnus (+STR for Skewer), Omniknight (AoE Repel), Clinkz (Skeleton Walk gives bonus damage, Burning Army hits Creeps, Searing Arrows deals AoE), Faceless Void (Timewalk deals AoE), Luna (Lucent Beam deals AoE), Monkey King (Ult hits creeps), Pangolier (Shield Crash affects creeps), Troll Warlord (ultimate gives Cleave), Weaver (Geminate Attack hits 5 targets), Dark Willow (all of her spells), KotL (Chakra Burn), Puck (automatic lvl. 25 talent on ult)
Kaz Bałagane 22 Feb, 2019 @ 2:41pm 
true
76561198157539811 23 Feb, 2019 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by -apem:
Thanks so much for the update! My friends and I really have a lot of fun playing this mode. A few requests for next update:

1) Medusa + Io is busted with Cursed Rapier right now. We went until like ~90 minutes before getting bored, Medusa was right-clicking for 500k. As long as the Tether remains she just keeps getting damage without any fear of death (which is easy to do if Io picks up Death Stone and Satanic). I see a few other heroes are as well; not sure if this item is good for the game.

2) Clinkz ultimate hasn't worked on anything for awhile. Please let it attack creeps! He would be a lot of fun to play, but right now he is too handicapped to be much good to anyone.

3) Please expand some of the useless item's options. Eul's, Lotus, Glimmer, Necro, Blade Mail, Hurricane Pike/Force Staff, Shadow Blade, Skadi, Blink could all use some love to make them worthwhile to build. You don't have to go the way of Exalted, etc. just interesting combinations would be lots of fun to play around with.

What is Death Stone sir?
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