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from my exp veil only good on early ng+, mid and above its kinda suck due splash and huge range, even SD can 1 shot you. sycter max -150 is not that good on NG+, in the otherhand if you are caster might just rushing asura lens(even tiny can kill doom with his skills and rushing core for shorten CD is not a smart way while you do so little damage, yeah you can spam it but that is if you are still alive.)XD
PS: I just tested lens on AM's Q. If you have rage charges builtup, it does amplify the damage with lens.
been try on 1 game with full nuker hero, looks like i do some chunk of brust damage but due to poor team we did lost anywway. i only try 2 items wombo, should try 4 items wombo combo next time.XD