u can grapple off phone

yes but it requires setup, and also means you need to destroy any good phones you have (like one you made with 500 or so kromer) that have a large aura

i would nerf something else and bring back the old [[up specil]]

Uspecial pratfall is pretty booty ngl, used to be a cool movement option in some cases or a semi-safe combo move but now its been kinda pooped on and im sad

ok here is my take on this. Making it able to grab phone for no pratfall is great HOWEVER due to the phone being eaten, it makes it a one time use OG Up B. My suggested change to make it a bit more interesting is by making the grounded version the only one that does not put you into pratfall OR having the grounded one just be the grab more akin to that of Joker grapple.

Originally posted by The Gibus Gamer:

ok here is my take on this. Making it able to grab phone for no pratfall is great HOWEVER due to the phone being eaten, it makes it a one time use OG Up B. My suggested change to make it a bit more interesting is by making the grounded version the only one that does not put you into pratfall OR having the grounded one just be the grab more akin to that of Joker grapple.

I like the idea of a joker grabble kind of thing. Sounds interesting. But yeah aside from that, the grounded version just shouldn't have pratfall regardless.

Great points all around, I literally don't care about any other move getting buffed, new BIG updates. None of that matters if the character isn't fun to play, nobody is going to want to play a character that isn't fun. Yes, his upspecil interfered with his dEsiGn pHilosOPhY, but its what made him FUN and full of soul. There was so many different ways to play him that were helped by his ridiculous UpSpecial. But now with it just doesn't have that. He isn't FUN to play. It doesn't make him a bad character, but a character that nobody is going to want to play AS MUCH anymore, its a shame.

waga baga bobo
i really needed the three jumps no pratfall recovery that doesnt need to grab walls or plats to use cmon it really hits with his combo game and now that i have to think about my resources when recovering what a shame.
character is washed go back to launch spamton he was much more full of soul(he legally cant have a soul, code doesnt have rights) all my spamton uspecial supporters rise up :flush:

Someone seems mad :O

am i?
sorry didnt realize thanks for bringing attention to it
i shall now make a spamtom build that doesnt have prat to help that out:trolleybus:

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