Unfortunatly that doesnt say much. You think you can enable verbose logging and share a link to the full log here?

[ShowMeYourHands]: Defined hand definitions of 305 weapons
[ShowMeYourHands]: There is an unexpected patch of the weapon-rendering function. This may affect hand-positions. Please report the following information to the author of the 'Show Me Your Hands'-mod
Prefix - Owner: rimworld.facialstuff.mod, Method: DrawEquipmentAiming_Prefix, Prio: 400

(Filename: C:\buildslave\unity\build\Runtime/Export/Debug/Debug.bindings.h Line: 35)

[ShowMeYourHands]: There is an unexpected patch of the weapon-rendering function. This may affect hand-positions. Please report the following information to the author of the 'Show Me Your Hands'-mod
Transpiler 0. Owner: rimworld.facialstuff.mod, Method: System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[HarmonyLib.CodeInstruction] DrawEquipmentAiming_Transpiler(System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[HarmonyLib.CodeInstruction], System.Reflection.Emit.ILGenerator), Prio: 400


is this right? if not let me know where i can find the logging

I see, can you try without facial stuff and see if thats the cause?

[HugsLib][ERR] Exception during DoWindowContents: System.InvalidCastException: Specified cast is not valid.
at ShowMeYourHands.ShowMeYourHandsMod.DrawWeapon (Verse.ThingDef thing, UnityEngine.Rect rect) [0x000b2] in <9f6742ccb6d44228bfd5470d7f7a3a19>:0
at ShowMeYourHands.ShowMeYourHandsMod.DrawTabsList (UnityEngine.Rect rect) [0x002e7] in <9f6742ccb6d44228bfd5470d7f7a3a19>:0
at ShowMeYourHands.ShowMeYourHandsMod.DoSettingsWindowContents (UnityEngine.Rect rect) [0x00048] in <9f6742ccb6d44228bfd5470d7f7a3a19>:0
at RimWorld.Dialog_VanillaModSettings.DoWindowContents (UnityEngine.Rect inRect) [0x000e5] in <e4b32d84f714481f906e5eea5e560e3b>:0

after disableing it

Ill try to add some more logging later to see if it can help

HAs to be a mod that messes with the menu I'm not sure if it's vanilla expanded or what

If i want to copy the Manual values where can I paste them, because I still cannot pull up the menu from the mod options but can edit it with ModManager, but i will not save my values for some reason. I'm looking to copy hands for the Lightsabers MOd atm. Ty for your time.

when you press copy they will be on the clipboard. so just paste them in any text-editor

ok save it in the mod folder what folder inside it and what should i name it?

You can take a look at the existing defs in the mod for examples