Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Muslim Bloodlines
megami-hime  [developer] 1 May, 2019 @ 2:04am
Suggestions for new bloodlines
Got an idea for a Muslim bloodline in the first three start dates? Feel free to tell!
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emperorjava 1 May, 2019 @ 3:54am 
Yazidids from 867 start and Kesranids from 1066 could use some love. They were both descended from same guy - Khalid of Armenia and ruled as Shirvanshahs from 861 to 1538. This is an impressive timeline considering unstable Muslim environment.

Another candidate is Saffarids, who almost put an end to Abbasid suzerainity.
Ziyarids can be another candidate dynasty for bloodline. Their founder was staunch Zoroastrian and wanted to bring Persian Empire back.

Moreover, Ayyubids definitely deserve a bloodline. Although they lived in much later date.
megami-hime  [developer] 1 May, 2019 @ 5:14am 
Saladin already has a bloodline, in fact, later in the game.

After a bit of reading, the Yazidids/Kesranids definitely sound worthy of some attention. The Saffarids and Ziyarids though, I might ignore for now as they're mostly limited to the 867 start.
You could give Mohammed a bloodline, I know they already have that trait. But it would be cool for them to get actual cool stuff.
breyer 2 May, 2019 @ 5:59pm 
- Hugh Capet or Robert the Strong! Both were great and notable figures during the Carolingian rule of France.
- The Ragnarrsons! Or, well, the more important figure: Bjorn, Harald Whiteshirt, and Ivar! Don't know how it'd turn out with Ragnarr's bloodline, though.
- Charlemagne! When the bloodline feature came out, I was shocked he wasn't included in the bloodlines, but Karl the Hammer was. (Not putting down Karl's achievements, of course. I just think Charlemagne needs one for the fact that he was the first Holy Roman Emperor.)
- Cnut the Great! The man formed the North Sea Empire, a fierce Scandinavian faction that dominated the North Sea until the end of his rule. He would be a fine addition.
- The Breizh family in de jure Brittany could possibly have a bloodline. They claim to be descended from King Arthur himself.
- Haesteinn in the 867 start! The man himself was a legend, along with the Ragnarrsons and Hrolfr the Conqueror. He killed Robert the Strong and was a nuisance to France for a good bit.
- Hrolfr the Conqueror. He conquered Normady as a viking, but his descendants would rule Normandy and then rule the Kingdom of England.
- Queen Tamari the Great of Georgia. She kept the kingdom of Georgia alive, despite the obvious patriarchy during the time. She was a righteous ruler, and a great exemplar for women's rights.

I think that's the majority of everything.
megami-hime  [developer] 2 May, 2019 @ 8:48pm 
Originally posted by Breyer na Sléibhte Appalachian:
- Hugh Capet or Robert the Strong! Both were great and notable figures during the Carolingian rule of France.
- The Ragnarrsons! Or, well, the more important figure: Bjorn, Harald Whiteshirt, and Ivar! Don't know how it'd turn out with Ragnarr's bloodline, though.
- Charlemagne! When the bloodline feature came out, I was shocked he wasn't included in the bloodlines, but Karl the Hammer was. (Not putting down Karl's achievements, of course. I just think Charlemagne needs one for the fact that he was the first Holy Roman Emperor.)
- Cnut the Great! The man formed the North Sea Empire, a fierce Scandinavian faction that dominated the North Sea until the end of his rule. He would be a fine addition.
- The Breizh family in de jure Brittany could possibly have a bloodline. They claim to be descended from King Arthur himself.
- Haesteinn in the 867 start! The man himself was a legend, along with the Ragnarrsons and Hrolfr the Conqueror. He killed Robert the Strong and was a nuisance to France for a good bit.
- Hrolfr the Conqueror. He conquered Normady as a viking, but his descendants would rule Normandy and then rule the Kingdom of England.
- Queen Tamari the Great of Georgia. She kept the kingdom of Georgia alive, despite the obvious patriarchy during the time. She was a righteous ruler, and a great exemplar for women's rights.

I think that's the majority of everything.

Those are all good suggestions, but for now I'd like to focus on the Islamic World, or at least everything outside of Europe proper. Plus, I'd like to focus on the first three start dates (769 to 1066), as that's where most people start on (including me). Tamari, unfortunately, is way past this.
megami-hime  [developer] 2 May, 2019 @ 8:54pm 
Originally posted by Col. William Tavington:
You could give Mohammed a bloodline, I know they already have that trait. But it would be cool for them to get actual cool stuff.
Muhammad is basically already covered by Fatimah. This is because of Muhammad's children, only Fatimah ever had a lasting lineage with Ali. All the others died before adulthood, or their own children did.
SalmonFox 4 May, 2019 @ 1:34pm 
The Almoravids over in Morocco could use a Berber bloodline. Maybe a Kalbid bloodline for the Emirs of Sicily focused on economic bonuses so they can afford more mercenaries to resist holy wars.

If the Fatimah bloodline's rapid growth outside the Hashimid and Fatimid dynasties is an issue, you could split it into two separate patrilineal bloodlines for Hasan and Husayn.
megami-hime  [developer] 5 May, 2019 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by FoxFondue:
The Almoravids over in Morocco could use a Berber bloodline. Maybe a Kalbid bloodline for the Emirs of Sicily focused on economic bonuses so they can afford more mercenaries to resist holy wars.

If the Fatimah bloodline's rapid growth outside the Hashimid and Fatimid dynasties is an issue, you could split it into two separate patrilineal bloodlines for Hasan and Husayn.
The Almoravids in fact do get a bloodline in vanilla, just not in 1066. I might add a bloodline for the Idrisids, the first Moroccan monarchy, though. I've considered the Kalbids before, but their bloodline would probably be very simple.

I've also divided Fatimah's bloodline as requested.

Originally posted by Der Metzgermeister:
The Hashimids themselves should have a bloodline that gives opinion bonuses for all muslims among other things. I get this is covered with Sayyid and Mirza but that's Paradox's fault for not reworking those traits and making Islamic bloodlines when Holy Fury came out.
I've divided Fatimah's bloodline into Hussayn's (for Fatimids) and Hasan's (for Hashemites)
dmt00003 17 Jun, 2019 @ 11:49am 
What about a levantine bloodline for the Ghassanids. There were Royal Ghassanid successors (Christian Sheikhs) in Al-Chemor in Mount Lebanon ruling the small sovereign sheikhdoms of Akoura (from 1211 until 1633 CE) and Zgharta-Zwaiya (from 1641 until 1747 CE. Might add some Levantine flavour...I know it isn't 'muslim' but it is a flavour of the non-muslim levantine and berber traditions. Just a thought :steamhappy:
Benseth 19 Aug, 2019 @ 4:10am 
Bloodline ideas for big dynasties and empires: Kwarezmid (doomed before Mongol onslaught?) Ghurid Persian empire in India, Tuqluq Turkish mega empire in India (1337 bookmark), Tulunids in Egypt 867 and Aghlabids 867. Small dynasties with interesting starts: Qarmatian Jannabids 936, Somali muslims in Berbera, Turkish Zengids in 1187, Hafsids berber raiders in Crete 867 etc, Hammadids in Algeria, Aftasid taifa in 1066, Marwanid visigothic muslim emirs in Sultanate of Andalusia 867 and Qasid Basque muslim sheiks in 769 and 867, the descendants of Cassius.
Jappards200 17 Sep, 2021 @ 8:33am 
How about the companions/Sahabah?
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