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Loki - Jotunheim I Skin+Helmet V3
Axal 3 May, 2019 @ 12:23pm
It didn't make it
So, seems like DE decided to screw us all over and not accept the skin. Are they for real? Like, they didn't even accept the Syandana. I honestly don't even know anymore. Good thing that Valkyr got two more skins in just one round am I right?
Last edited by Axal; 3 May, 2019 @ 12:26pm
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Why so sweaty? 3 May, 2019 @ 1:49pm 
Just sad honestly. Hopefully next round
Originally posted by AxalEquinox:
So, seems like DE decided to screw us all over and not accept the skin. Are they for real? Like, they didn't even accept the Syandana. I honestly don't even know anymore. Good thing that Valkyr got two more skins in just one round am I right?
DE dont owe you to accept any skin you like
elire01 3 May, 2019 @ 1:57pm 
how do you know tho
muchi 3 May, 2019 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by elire01:
how do you know tho
dev stream showed the tennogen skins and it wasn't there, also forum for round 16 showed the results, https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1090277-tennogen-round-16-accepted-items/?tab=comments#comment-10728361
elire01 3 May, 2019 @ 2:42pm 
aww
Axal 3 May, 2019 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by ♥*¨*★~Preda~★*¨*♥:
Originally posted by AxalEquinox:
So, seems like DE decided to screw us all over and not accept the skin. Are they for real? Like, they didn't even accept the Syandana. I honestly don't even know anymore. Good thing that Valkyr got two more skins in just one round am I right?
DE dont owe you to accept any skin you like
I know that. We all know that. But these skins are made by the comunity for the comunity, so it would be nice if DE took into account what we like too, especially since this skin is so popular (for obvious reasons). So stop stating what we already know.
muchi 3 May, 2019 @ 3:44pm 
Originally posted by AxalEquinox:
Originally posted by ♥*¨*★~Preda~★*¨*♥:
DE dont owe you to accept any skin you like
I know that. We all know that. But these skins are made by the comunity for the comunity, so it would be nice if DE took into account what we like too, especially since this skin is so popular (for obvious reasons). So stop stating what we already know.
DE liked the skin but it had some problems but they didn't want to go in depth what the problem was, just something about the styling "We think the Loki skin is excellent, but there were some stylistic concerns that would take too much time to fix for this round, unfortunately. Rest assured it'll be getting feedback!"

Originally posted by Vexhnolyze:
Originally posted by AxalEquinox:
I know that. We all know that. But these skins are made by the comunity for the comunity, so it would be nice if DE took into account what we like too, especially since this skin is so popular (for obvious reasons). So stop stating what we already know.
DE liked the skin but it had some problems but they didn't want to go in depth what the problem was, just something about the styling "We think the Loki skin is excellent, but there were some stylistic concerns that would take too much time to fix for this round, unfortunately. Rest assured it'll be getting feedback!"

Allow me to translate: "It looks significantly better than anything we've crapped out in the last 6 years, and we can't have people enjoying something that looks this good for the reasonable price of around $7 when we're still trying to milk $60 out of people for a prime syandana and some prime accessories as if the work that goes into these 3D models is comparable to a full-fledged video game".
Axal 4 May, 2019 @ 1:00am 
Originally posted by Vexhnolyze:
Originally posted by AxalEquinox:
I know that. We all know that. But these skins are made by the comunity for the comunity, so it would be nice if DE took into account what we like too, especially since this skin is so popular (for obvious reasons). So stop stating what we already know.
DE liked the skin but it had some problems but they didn't want to go in depth what the problem was, just something about the styling "We think the Loki skin is excellent, but there were some stylistic concerns that would take too much time to fix for this round, unfortunately. Rest assured it'll be getting feedback!"
Thanks for clarifying the situation. I guess now we've just gotta wait and hope
pejn 死 5 May, 2019 @ 7:13pm 
strip a few things off the skin, make it look unfinished. then DE will have no problem putting the skin in, as they did with the plains and the vallis.
Originally posted by I <3 DolyakWoman:
strip a few things off the skin, make it look unfinished. then DE will have no problem putting the skin in, as they did with the plains and the vallis.

Or, alternatively, if the skin's/syandana's creator really wants to make DE smile, just completely redo all of it to the point that it barely even looks anything like what it was before, completely eliminate everything that makes the original appealing, and reduce it to nothing but a bland, uninspired-looking design, and it'll get accepted immediately!

Let's face it, Tennogen's a complete joke at this point, and DE's the reason why. There's too many unspoken rules that clearly exist and are consistently enforced but never clarified, too many arbitrary restrictions for what people are allowed to create, and too much potential being wasted because of almost child-like levels of pickiness and obvious self-interest as they don't want Tennogen stuff that costs $7 to look better than their overpriced prime accessories, and don't really care if they have to sacrifice a community member's time and effort if it means securing a few extra bucks. Remember, you're just one of several million registered "losers".

Thing is, it wasn't always like this. For the first few rounds, we were getting some amazing and unique stuff through Tennogen, but now creative and amazing designs are frowned upon, and seemingly the only way to get anything accepted is to make it completely bland and basic. Each round progressively contains less and less items that look even remotely as exciting as what we used to see get accepted, and it isn't because Tennogen creators stopped having good ideas, it's just that their good ideas aren't welcome anymore.
Sunscreeen 10 May, 2019 @ 6:25pm 
jfc the amount of cynicism in this thread is giving me cancer, i think.

Originally posted by Sunscreeen:
jfc the amount of cynicism in this thread is giving me cancer, i think.

Can you really say any of it is wrong, though?
LTurmoil47 11 May, 2019 @ 7:55am 
Well, some of what you are saying is far reaching. In a situation like these tennogen rounds it's understandable that they can't accept everything in the game.

It's like a college art show. Those experienced get in more often, newer contestants that join in will have a harder time getting accepted, or they'll get lucky and get in on the first try. There are several skins in the game currently that fit both descriptions.

Some of the skins that don't make it in still have a chance to get into future rounds, not only that DE will give the artists feedback when possible to ensure they get in. Take the Rhino, Frost, and Excal ION skins as an example. The guy kept working to fix them, and with DE's help, he eventually started getting his skins accepted. However, his ION Cloak skin has just become a meme at this point due to how long they've been keeping it in the workshop.

The Mirage Kuva Jester Skin is another example. The guy kept improving it, but it isn't getting in due to conflicting details.

Now in the case of this skin, yes Taylor was vague, but it doesn't mean she or someone else won't return and help give proper feedback.

To say that they aren't helping at all or that the artists have ran out of good ideas is basically you throwing small stones in an ocean.

Unless you have concrete evidence to prove otherwise, might want to pay more attention.
Last edited by LTurmoil47; 11 May, 2019 @ 8:04am
Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
Well, some of what you are saying is far reaching. In a situation like these tennogen rounds it's understandable that they can't accept everything in the game.

Obviously. I'm not suggesting they accept "everything". Worthy submissions get approved, while lackluster submissions get declined. The problem is that DE has been working in reverse on that lately.

Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
It's like a college art show. Those experienced get in more often, newer contestants that join in will have a harder time getting accepted, or they'll get lucky and get in on the first try. There are several skins in the game currently that fit both descriptions.

That has absolutely no relevance to what happened here, but sure.

Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
Some of the skins that don't make it in still have a chance to get into future rounds, not only that DE will give the artists feedback when possible to ensure they get in. Take the Rhino, Frost, and Excal ION skins as an example. The guy kept working to fix them, and with DE's help, he eventually started getting his skins accepted. However, his ION Cloak skin has just become a meme at this point due to how long they've been keeping it in the workshop.

No, skins that don't make it in have no chance at all until they scrap everything about the original to become bland and generic like everything else that has gotten approved lately. DE doesn't give feedback, they give demands, and those demands are "stop being better than us". That's all it really is, and a lot of people are starting to figure that out.

Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
The Mirage Kuva Jester Skin is another example. The guy kept improving it, but it isn't getting in due to conflicting details.

Translation: DE's thousands of unspoken Tennogen rules.

Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
Now in the case of this skin, yes Taylor was vague, but it doesn't mean she or someone else won't return and help give proper feedback.

Of course, of course. Just as soon as they find someone creative enough to say "stop being better than us" in a way that makes it sound like legitimate criticism and not at all what it very obviously is.

Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
To say that they aren't helping at all or that the artists have ran out of good ideas is basically you throwing small stones in an ocean.

DE is helping themselves, and I never said the artists have run out of good ideas (in fact, I actually said the exact opposite). I said their good ideas aren't welcome anymore.

Originally posted by LTurmoil47:
Unless you have concrete evidence to prove otherwise, might want to pay more attention.

This entire situation is concrete evidence. Go ahead and look through the rules for Tennogen and name ONE that this skin somehow violates. There isn't one. There isn't a single rule that this skin doesn't abide by. Clearly, it just looks too high quality for what DE is willing to approve and charge only $6-7 for. If they let in too many high quality projects like this, not as many people will buy their overpriced prime accessory packs, and they know it. Perhaps it's you that should be "paying more attention", since you seem to not be noticing what's going on here.

Ever wonder why at first all these amazing things were getting accepted, but anymore stuff like this gets declined? A little understanding for how businesses work makes it pretty easy to figure it out. Clearly, after awhile, DE started to notice a decline in the amount of people who were purchasing prime accessories as Tennogen's popularity grew more and more, so they stopped accepting projects that had that amount of support, and instead started giving those projects "feedback" that consistently has led to those projects getting worse and worse with each remake, which leads to the supporters feeling less and less excited and interested, which means less purchases of Tennogen, and thus more focus on prime accessories without having to outright cancel Tennogen and inevitably upset a large portion of their playerbase.

Personally, DE doing stuff like this is exactly why I don't spend money on plat or prime accessories, and only buy Tennogen when the good submissions are actually allowed in. These creators deserve to be paid for their hard work, but if DE is willing to essentially spit on someone's hard work just to preserve the purchases of their overpriced prime accessories, then, honestly, I see no reason to offer them a single cent of my money, because I haven't, don't, and never will support practices like that. Companies need to learn to respect their customers.
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