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Androids [1.3 | Discontinued]
pgames-food 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:10pm
bug with Machine Gun Turret mod and Worker Droid
hi this is just to try and keep all related info in one place, for the issue i had with the droids being able to use 1 type of turret, but not another turret:


Problem:
"this was a bug that kept popping up and stopped the machine gun emplacement from shooting with droids:

screenshot added here: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1656881884
(debug log messages that keep repeating about 2 times per second, regarding "exception ticking turret (system.invalidCastException: cannot case from source type to destination type)")


hi, has anyone been able to get an droid to use a Machine Gun Emplacement from
xnd's Turret Extensions mod? i can get a worker droid to use a mounted crossbow turret ,but not a plastic machine gun emplacement and just get tick after tick (errors popping up) - i even tried a different material like steel using admin spawning but still the same error -

as a result, i suddenly found that my base was not as well-defended as i thought, and by the time i found out i could not use the droids i sent out to the perimeter to shoot the machine gun turrets, i didnt have time to send colonists instead, and my base got swarmed by 14 raiders using some really powerful Callistan and Orassan weapons... one of the sniped my main Colony Founder who named the colony i started with lol, and took her head clean off.... :o)

its all part of the story but i dont suppose there is a way to re-clone or fix someone who has lost their head?

also posted as comment on androids mod page:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1541064015

and Turret Extensons mod page:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1496122245
"

im not sure if this is a bug with this androids mod, or turret extensions (so also mentioned in over there too)
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pgames-food 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:23pm 
here is my current full mod list (which has pretty much been stable until now, or stable so i thought) :)

the only recent additions have been genetic rim, nuclear fire, and the [Syulipia]SlimeMOD but this is the only time i actually got these turrets built and upgraded, to use the machine guns in a raid.

344 mods:
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HugsLib | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=28066.0
JecsTools | https://discord.gg/AaVFA7V
Humanoid Alien Races 2.0 | https://github.com/erdelf/AlienRaces/wiki
Androids | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=35663.0
Camera+ |
Riot Control |
VGP Vegetable Garden | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=36926.0
VGP Garden Fabrics | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=36926.msg378134#msg378134
VGP Garden Medicine | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=36926.msg378133#msg378133
VGP Garden Resources | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=36926.msg378135#msg378135
VGP Soylent Production | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=36926.msg378136#msg378136
Deep Ore Identifier |
VGP Garden Canning | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=36926.msg378130#msg378130
Smoked meat |
Dirt Walls And Floors |
Toggle Harvest |
BoomMod |
Interaction Bubbles |
RimSearch | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=46560.0
ED-ReverseCycleCooler | https://github.com/jaxxa/JaxxaRimworldReleaseCollection/blob/master/README.md
Tactics Mode |
Hotkeys |
Equip Food |
Safe Pause |
Disinfectant stand. |
Nano Repair Tech |
[1.0] Defenses Expanded |
Roof Support 1.0 | https://github.com/MatchSG/RoofSupport
Dinosauria | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=35678.0
A Dog Said... Animal Prosthetics | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=46210.0
Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=10571.0
Survivalist's Additions | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=32190
Prisoner Harvesting |
Pawn Rules |
[1.0] Compound Bow |
Arrow Please |
Xen's Taming Fixer | https://www.patreon.com/EmpireXen
Miscellaneous 'CORE' | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Misc. Bees'n'Honey | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Misc. Robots | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Misc. Robots++ | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=26151.0
Misc. TurretBase, Objects | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
LBE's A Dog Said Easy Patcher |
Various Space Ship Chunk |
Smart Medicine | https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/Uuugggg/myworkshopfiles/?appid=294100
Harvest Everything! | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=32996.0
The Price Is Right | https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/Uuugggg/myworkshopfiles/?appid=294100
Pick Up And Haul | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=35832
Numbers | https://github.com/Mehni/kNumbers
Glowstone |
Craftable Neutroamine |
Shield Generators by Frontier Developments | https://github.com/JonnyNova/Rimworld-Shields
Meals On Wheels | https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/Uuugggg/myworkshopfiles/?appid=294100
Share The Load | https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/Uuugggg/myworkshopfiles/?appid=294100
EdB Prepare Carefully |
OgreStack |
Misc. Weapon Repair | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
Misc. Training | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=3612.0
PowerSwitch | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=2890.0
[KV] Adjustable Trade Ships - 1.0 | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=41309.0
Neutroamine Synthesis |
Simple Clones |
Ra2Bunker[1.0] | http://rimworldgame.com
CustomDeathRandomness |
Grass Is Hay |
Giddy-up! Core |
Giddy-up! Battle Mounts |
Giddy-up! Caravan |
Giddy-up! Ride and Roll |
[1.0] Advanced Animal Frameworks 3.3 | http://walkingproblem.com
[1.0] Trading Economy Mod 3.1 | http://walkingproblem.com
Regeneration Bay |
Sci-Fire-Power Core | http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/verdecaelum/
Forbiddable Refuelables |
High Density Hydroponics |
Money Trees |
Simple Stockpile Presets | https://github.com/Lanilor/Simple-Mods-Collection
Loot Boxes | https://github.com/Lanilor/Rimworld-Loot-Boxes
[1.0] Palisades |
Laser Guns |
Advanced Cooling |
Medieval Times |
Snap Out! | 1319782555
[1.0] Small Shelf |
[WD] Soil Contrast |
Chitin[1.0] | https://github.com/techmago/rimworld-chitin
Boots and Stuff[1.0] | https://github.com/techmago/rimworld-bootsnStuff
Shale - from oil to plastic | https://github.com/techmago/rimworld-shale
Combat Training |
[1.0] DE Surgeries |
Steel Foam | public.FutureGadgetLab.net
Tiny Workbenchs |
chickens Multiproducer |
Resource Replicator (1.0) |
Harvest Organs Post Mortem - 4.1 [1.0] |
Medical Tab |
[XND] Use That Sniper's Scope! | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
[XND] Memorable Auroras | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
MendAndRecycle | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=22894.0
[XND] Proper Shotguns | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
[XND] Forbiddable Debris | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
[XND] Turret Extensions | https://github.com/RimWorld-CCL-Reborn/TurretExtensions/wiki
[XND] TE Turret Expansion | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
Red Sterile Tile |
Silts Additional Additions |
Food Alert | https://github.com/Mehni/FoodAlert/releases/latest
RimBuff | https://github.com/jhjjgu0115/RimBuff
Rimperion | https://github.com/jhjjgu0115/Rimperion
BioReactor | https://github.com/jhjjgu0115/BioReactor/
Torgue | https://github.com/jhjjgu0115/Torgue
Hospitality | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11444.0
4M Mehni's Misc Modifications | https://github.com/Mehni/4M-Mehni-s-Misc-Modifications/releases/latest
ED-Prometheus | https://github.com/jaxxa/JaxxaRimworldReleaseCollection/blob/master/README.md
More Random Seeds |
RT Fuse | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11272
SS Bigger Batteries |
SS Battery Fuse |
Mad Skills | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11148
Select Turret Target |
Realistic Smokeleaf |
"Chocolate" BunBuns |
Shear Those Corpses Vanilla |
Rim of Madness - Bones | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=32560.0
Incident Person Stat |
[SYR] Harvest Yield Patch | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=43449
[SYR] Bullet Casings | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=43449
[SYR] Doormats | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=43449
[SYR] AK-47 | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=43449
More Pack Animals |
[XND] Medical Alerts For Animals | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
[XND] AutoOwl |
[1.0] Coonskin Cap |
[SYR] Light Radius | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=43449
[SYR] Glowing Healroot | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=43449
[WD] More Mini-Turrets 1.0 |
Vanilla Security Expansion |
Mid-Range Drop Pods |
Advanced Transport Pods |
More Vanilla Turrets [1.0] |
More Vanilla Turrets - Turret Extensions Patch |
Pharmacist | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120
RimBees |
Tag Trait | n/a
Area Unlocker | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120.0
[XND] Profitable Weapons | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=29503.0
Heat Map |
Room Sense |
Blueprints | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120.0
Reduce Gradual Relations Decay |
TD Enhancement Pack | https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/Uuugggg/myworkshopfiles/?appid=294100
Pack Mules Extended |
Pack Mules Extended - Dinosauria |
Rimmunizations |
Relations Tab | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=15964.0
Cab's Beat The Meat [1.0/B19] | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=32480.0
Nutrient Paste Production | https://github.com/Maaxar/NutrientPasteProduction
[1.0] RimWorld Minions V7.2 | http://walkingproblem.com
[FIXED] GeneSeed |
FrameRateControl |
Slightly Tweaked Mortars |
Fire Extinguisher |
Draggable Corners | https://github.com/sparr/rimworld-mod-DraggableCorners
Mercer's Backpacks + Nano Suit (B19) | n/a
Outfitted |
Resource Generators | Sorry, there is no URL yet!
Craftable Synthetics - 1.0 |
Firefly Soundtrack |
Dubs Mint Menus |
RimHUD |
Xeva's Rimhair | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=19944
Ugh You Got Me | http://marvinkosh.omniloth.net
Therapy |
Anesthetic Gun Mod[1.0] | https://twitter.com/tikubonn
Anesthetic Turret Mod[1.0] | https://twitter.com/tikubonn
SS Researchable Stat Upgrades | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=30813.0
SS Lightning Rod |
Damage Indicators |
RimXmas[1.0] | https://twitter.com/tikubonn
Mechanoid Figures[1.0] | https://twitter.com/tikubonn
Rimoleum |
Rimoprene |
Rimica |
RimPlas |
ChemicalPlant |
ElectricFence |
Better Workbench Management | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=33083.0
Brain In a Jar |
But I have bionics... |
Mechanite Augmentation |
Rimworld Search Agency |
Fishing Nets | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=5509.0
Regenerator Nanohive |
The Harvest |
Statue Printer[1.0] | http://rimworldgame.com
Mini Solar Panels |
CaravanOptions |
[KV] No Max Bills - 1.0 |
Plasteel Surgery |
[PS] Reconditioning Pod |
We Had a Trader? | https://github.com/liebasam/rimworld-mods
Tradable Meals |
Tradable Stone Blocks |
RaiderInfo |
Selectable Sculpture Graphic |
Rich Traders |
Bulk Carrier |
Minigun2[1.0] | https://github.com/techmago/rimworld-minigun2
More Medications - Reborn | https://github.com/luisbrandao/rimworld-MoreMedications
Skilled Stonecutting | http://www.nexusmods.com/rimworld/mods/227/
Simple Bulk Production |
Incendiary Shotgun |
Landmines |
All for One [1.0] |
Fire Starter Sniper Rifle |
[TX] Hydroponic trees |
Chemfuel burners |
Glowstick |
[Ods] Mens Hair |
[Ods] Womens Hair |
End table gives rest bonus |
Miraffe (1.0) |
Flommel [1.0] |
Flommel - A Dog Said Patch [1.0] |
Wild Pokémon [1.0] |
Wild Pokémon - A Dog Said Patch [1.0] |
Medical Training |
Let's Trade! [1.0] |
The Rock Trade [1.0] |
InventoryTab | https://github.com/SirKota/InventoryTab
Additional Joy Objects |
RimWriter - Books, Scrolls, Tablets, and Libraries |
Deconstruct Return Fix |
Color Coded Mood Bar |
ETRT: Cannibal Tweaks |
ETRT: Tribal Apparel |
ETRT: Room Size Tweaks |
Steel extraction |
Power Indicators |
FashionRIMsta | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=46210.0
Wild Haygrass [1.0] |
Galaxy Life | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=46210.0
Craftable Plasteel - 1.0 |
Carbon | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=34628.0
Rimlaser |
Pet Cucumber [1.0] |
SCP - 111|Dragon Snails [1.0] |
HousekeeperAssistanceCat |
Simple Concrete |
Halo - Soundtrack [1.0] |
Halo - Weapons [1.0] |
Gilet |
AnimalsGenderOnCaravan | https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/id/mrcool92/myworkshopfiles/?appid=294100
Rimmunator - Weapons |
Apparello 2 | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=5085.msg48933#msg48933
MoreMonstergirls |
Fallout Traits |
Follow Me | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120.0
More Lances |
Supply Drop! |
Realistic Rooms | https://discord.gg/YhWA6uZ
[FSF] Rain Washes Away Filth |
[FSF] Better Spike Traps |
Gems |
[FSF] Encounter Map Resources |
Progress Renderer | https://github.com/Lanilor/Progress-Renderer
Personal Defense System |
Shock Weapons (Less Lethal) |
[WD] Simple Coal 1.0 |
[WD] Partially-Passable Wind Turbines 1.0 |
More Harvest Designators! |
RT Power Switch | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=11272
Tech Raiding [1.0] | http://rimworldgame.com
No Barrack Penalty Buff |
Ivory and Jade Carving |
Ragnarok Soundtrack B18 |
Doors Close Fast Again |
Wedding Ring |
【vr1.0】Animal straw bed |
Dampening Belts |
[1.0] Medical IV's |
Medical Supplements |
Social Supplements |
Inspiration |
Craftable Emanators |
Dig a hole(F) |
Stick Lantern |
MiningCo. PowerFist | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=14711.msg153945#msg153945
Orassans |
Milkable Orassans |
Chemfueled Stove |
Log Walls 1.0 |
CloudCore |
Chemistry Techs |
[SS]Lovely Hair Style |
[Ling]Cooler1.0 |
Deer Extension |
[SS]Maid Project |
Just more implants |
Astoriel |
Blood Pack |
Callistans(1.0) |
Soitian |
Wa! Skeleton! |
Animal Tab | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120.0
Dual Wield |
RunAndGun |
What the hack?! |
Giddy-up! Mechanoids |
More Mechanoids | http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846222458
Mechanoids Feel Chill Now 1.0 |
Old Style Butchery Efficiency [With Mechanoids] (1.0) |
Metabolism Feels Cared About Now |
AI Uplifting Assistant [1.0] | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=37543.0
[T4] Stalin's Weapon Pack |
Semiprecious Stones |
Chess Sculptures |
Kill For Me |
Raids For Me |
The Executor |
PrisonerRansom |
TY Male Body for B19/1.0 | 1551743787
TY Female Body for B19/1.0 | 1548995767
TY Slender Female Body for B19/1.0 | 1555543738
Expanded Patchleather v0.14 |
Wandering Caravans [v2.4.0] | https://www.patreon.com/G223Productions
More Carpets [FP] |
Verge of Galaxy (Music Mod) 1.0.0 | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=30920.0
[KV] Don't stop the music - 1.0 | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=37154.msg380067#msg380067
Mines |
PB Basic Apparel |
[CP] Portable Power Generator (1.0) |
Sparkling Worlds - Core Mod [1.0] - Reduced features | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=35373.0
Roads of the Rim | https://github.com/LocoNeko/RoadsOfTheRim
Nuclear Fire |
I Clearly Have Enough! |
Crafting Quality Rebalanced |
[Syulipia]SlimeMOD |
Genetic Rim |

+ these usual 5 at the end:
Export Agency |
HelpTab |
MinifyEverything |
Research Tree | https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=16120
ShowModDesignators |
[1.0] Modlist | https://github.com/apkd/Modlist/


mod stats:
tried loading 344 modswith AV disabled as a test: (but when enabled adds only a bit though)

01:39 15s 14/02/2019
02:09 30s 14/02/2019
= 30mins 15s (344 mods) = about 5.5 seconds per mod (approx) or about 11 mods per minute (to main menu)
+ research tree= (i didnt click yet as currently researching a very large project for the brain in a jar mod) :o)
Last edited by pgames-food; 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:42pm
pgames-food 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:27pm 
i also have a 1.7GB compressed file of my whole game folder (inc mods) but can probably get that down to less once i remove the actual rimworld files etc. (was just easier to make a backup locally but wouldnt want to pass that around without removing those files lol) = about 1.5GB
Last edited by pgames-food; 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:28pm
pgames-food 15 Feb, 2019 @ 9:46pm 
here is the modlist file from the save-related folder, in case easier with the actual mod id tags:

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germnbarb 15 Feb, 2019 @ 10:03pm 
(pure speculation off the amount of mods) there is definitely a mod conflict going on here and it would take a large amount of time to find out which mod(s) is causing the issue, i would suggest uninstalling mods that you don't use and try to limit yourself in the future, i'm sorry if i couldn't provide an exact cause of the issue.
pgames-food 15 Feb, 2019 @ 10:26pm 
ah thanks for having a look, ok no problem.
it might just be that only human colonists can use it (which chjees might know about) but i need to do more testing.

(its so addictive adding mods lol :) but apart from this issue (which i admit ,cost me the life of my colony founder, the mods seem to be playing quite well together) :)
pgames-food 18 Feb, 2019 @ 9:31pm 
hi just a quick update... i tried some tests with the same modlist as above, but with a new colony in admin/god mode, and at first, the machine gun turret emplacement gave the same errors...
but, i then clicked upgrade (since i have an upgrade mod too), and then they started working without any errors :)

it seems to be inconsistent, in the sense that about 80% of the time, they work, (manned by humans, aliens, worker droids, battle droids) but i had to manually click upgrade (on 1 of them) and then any more i built, just worked even without an upgrade.

i managed to load up my original savegame (just before the battle), and re-played the raid defence, and swapped the "machine gun emplacement" for "machine gun complex", which looked similar in stats, and then actually managed to man the turrets with 2 droids, and successfully defended my base - and the colony Founder didnt get her head blown off this time lol :lunar2019piginablanket:

(not exactly a solution, as i think the issue is probably to do with not starting a new game, but it got me past the issue, and now i can switch to god mode and delete and rebuild them from scratch in the existing game and do an upgrade and see if it works - else will stick to machine gun complex, but will then spend time doing the actual research for it to that i dont actually cheat) :)
Last edited by pgames-food; 18 Feb, 2019 @ 9:32pm
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