All the skills described below are skills used in large areas. As you know, Overthrow Desert octet mod is a small arena for 3 teams and 24 players. These skills not only cause disadvantages but also hinder gambling as a whole. They are literally the opposite of what this mod should offer: An arena battle with no advantage for any TEAM.


1) Treant - Life Seed (gain fog) + Eyes in forest with scepter (remove fog for team)


I don't really know what's on the developers' minds. But adding a skill to fog an arena was the biggest bizarre I've seen to date. Worse, there is another skill that removes the fog just for allies. You simply put 3 or 4 range players into the fog (sniper, enchantress, willow) and they kill everyone without being found.

Basically it is a tiny arena in which one team sets fog to the other two teams forcing them to kill themselves (because the other two teams give up attacking within the fog). And while they kill themselves, the team inside the fog attacks and wins the match freely.

The skills cd is ridiculously low, in minutes the entire arena is covered in fog.

And who will waste time cutting down trees? Nobody, because everyone who plays overthrow likes to fight and not be cutting down trees all the time. This was not supposed to be a game of strategic fights and territories, arena games are just meant to fight and kill. You developers are evading the goal of the mod which is just a big fight within a small circle.

Remove skills fogs on tinys arena, this is ridiculous.

2) Dark see - Parallel wall talent + refresher on bases entrances + aether lens


This ability seems harmless, but some players are ruining games with it.

They choose one of the two enemy bases and create parallel walls using refresh (sometimes 4 walls) making it impossible for the team to leave the base and reach the arena.

It is not as serious as the previous fog skill (as this harms the two enemy teams, not just 1)

However, this combo can disable a team in the arena completely, causing players to leave the game because they can barely leave the base and reach the arena with full HP.

I really think that this type of abuse needs more attention from the developers.


3) Snapfire - 3x Lil's Shredder multishot talent + build full daedalus and + blink dagger

This is less serious abuse, but it needs attention. Basically you can kill with this combo of 3 to 5 players quickly without them being able to react. If you have a dagger, it becomes even more difficult to react. It's a combo with an exorbitantly high burn.

The question I ask is: what sense do you have to remove the dagon from the mod because it has a high burn, but leave this type of combo in the game?


My suggestion is that you test everything I said and see how totally disproportionate it is.
I know it is boring to be nerfing x or y, but the mod is no longer fun when in every game players use abuses simply to end the fun.