Darkest Dungeon®

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Dragonslayer Knight - Class Mod
Daoron  [developer] 24 Nov, 2017 @ 1:14am
Balance & Suggestions
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I really like the Princess guard skill from the other dragonslayer.
I LOVE this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guy and bringing him to DD just made my "Darkest Soul" MUCH MORE fun and enjoyable.
At the matter of balance:

Dragonslayer Knight is very balanced, he is not overpowered, has lore-wise skills and have decent base stats overall.

Consistency

The Dragonslayer has a good pool of HP, meaning that even if he fails to evade hits he will still be safe from criticals and will be kept from reaching death's door easily. His speed is average but with his Nimble Defense he will be the fastest in thy party by repeated using his Nimble Defense and other Back attacks for setting up his Charging Stab. He is a reliabe riposte user and a good hitter, nothing too much, everything in the right direction.

My party composition for my testing section was:

-Vestal/Man-At-Arms/Dragonslayer Knight/Crusader
-Vestal/Man-At-Arms/Crusader/Dragonslayer Knight
-Crusader/Vestal/Dragonslayer Knight/man-At-Arms
-Crusader/Dragonslayer Knight/Vestal/Man-At-Arms
-Vestal/Dragonslayer Knight/Man-At-Arms/Twilight Knight
-Dragonslayer Knight/Twilight Knight/Vestal/Man-At-Arms

And, as much as I hath tested, Dragonslayer set up is incredible:
-Man-At-Arms is there to Guard and Riposte;
-Vestal For heal and Thunderstrike;
-Crusader for Holy lance, stress heal, Zealous Accusation, stun or basic attack;
-Twilight Knight is there for stress heal and riposte.
-Dragonslayer is there for moving and setting up Riposte, Holy Lance or Charging Stab. In situations where the party is surprised thou can reorganizate the ranks by moving him and MAA or CRU around.

He hath great synergy with Crusader and Man-At-Arms and is invaluable when the party is suffled.

Trinkets

I did not really liked his trinkets. Foremost, the bonuses art okay, but is far better to use other generic trinkets. For example, when a trinket is good, without penalties and with 3 or 2 bonuses they art class specific. As long as the bonus doesnt makes the hero overpowered its okay. Most of his trinkets art comparable to common and uncommon rarity.

-Leo Ring should be common and Ring of The Sun Princess should be uncommon.

For a crimson court set, accordingly to game standarts and to this class specific playstyle, I would recommend this:

Trinket #1
+20% Melee skill DMG
+25% Virtue chance
+50% Debuff resist
+20% Stress

Trinket #2
+30% DMG When Riposte
+20 ACC When Riposte
+33% Healing received
-10 Dodge
-4 Speed

When both art being used:
+20% HP
+25% Virtue chance
+10% PROT
It is a bit long but I wanted to inform my thoughts on the class and my opinion to make the most of it. Much thanks for the incredible work and let me know if thou need anything!
The testing section with acolyte of the sun proved that dragonslayer is very effective with a few classes, but other doesnt go that well with him.
I would suggest giving the DSK a bit of PROT. Yeah he is not a tank, but he wear Heavy Closed Armor. It would make sense since a skeleton wearing the rusted remains of armor HAS 25% PROT. In my personal use Overhaul Mod his PROT was changed to 5%/10%/15%/20%/25% PROT. In the same OM I changed borth MAA and CRUSADER to be according with MAA having 50% PROT and CRUSADER having 60% PROT.
Daoron  [developer] 21 Dec, 2017 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by Imperator_Dasmodeus:
I would suggest giving the DSK a bit of PROT. Yeah he is not a tank, but he wear Heavy Closed Armor. It would make sense since a skeleton wearing the rusted remains of armor HAS 25% PROT. In my personal use Overhaul Mod his PROT was changed to 5%/10%/15%/20%/25% PROT. In the same OM I changed borth MAA and CRUSADER to be according with MAA having 50% PROT and CRUSADER having 60% PROT.

None of the base game classes have innate PROT, I don't want to stray from that. The class has some PROT trinkets you can use if you want to give him some more survivability.
Originally posted by Imperator_Dasmodeus:
I would suggest giving the DSK a bit of PROT. Yeah he is not a tank, but he wear Heavy Closed Armor. It would make sense since a skeleton wearing the rusted remains of armor HAS 25% PROT. In my personal use Overhaul Mod his PROT was changed to 5%/10%/15%/20%/25% PROT. In the same OM I changed borth MAA and CRUSADER to be according with MAA having 50% PROT and CRUSADER having 60% PROT.

Or maybe:

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Originally posted by Daoron:
Originally posted by Imperator_Dasmodeus:
I would suggest giving the DSK a bit of PROT. Yeah he is not a tank, but he wear Heavy Closed Armor. It would make sense since a skeleton wearing the rusted remains of armor HAS 25% PROT. In my personal use Overhaul Mod his PROT was changed to 5%/10%/15%/20%/25% PROT. In the same OM I changed borth MAA and CRUSADER to be according with MAA having 50% PROT and CRUSADER having 60% PROT.

None of the base game classes have innate PROT, I don't want to stray from that. The class has some PROT trinkets you can use if you want to give him some more survivability.

Just saw that. Well thanks for the reply. :)
Hey daoron what about introducing journal entries to the dragonslayer?
Daoron  [developer] 31 Dec, 2017 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Imperator Dasmodeus:
Hey daoron what about introducing journal entries to the dragonslayer?

Those wouldn't really add any new mechanics to the class, I'm also a really terrible writer =p
Haven't looked into creating those, maybe I'll include something like that if I ever do a big update to the class. (Not planning any updates at the moment, I'm pretty happy with the class at the moment.)
I have used stealth in Nible Defense, but don't really know how to feel about that. By spamming NB you could be unreachable unless AoE skills are used. But... don't know.
Last edited by Loremaster Dasmodeus; 31 Dec, 2017 @ 6:09pm
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