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nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 4:45am
Demo's hat
Why does demo's hat have 2 eyes? It should have 1.
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Pája ℮ 24 Oct, 2017 @ 8:09am 
jesus we get it demo has one eye every hat dosent need to show that
King Squid 24 Oct, 2017 @ 8:09am 
That. Is. GENIUS!!!
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by Pablo sucks at TF2:
jesus we get it demo has one eye every hat dosent need to show that
There are a couple of hats that do take it in consideration and especially a hat with eyes shouldn't have 2 eyes when worn by the demoman.
Extra Ram 24 Oct, 2017 @ 10:12am 
The one-eyed gimmick doesn't work 90% of the time, and to be honest it ruins a lot of reletively okay items because of that gimmick
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by extraram.exe is not responding:
The one-eyed gimmick doesn't work 90% of the time, and to be honest it ruins a lot of reletively okay items because of that gimmick
How does removing an eye or covering it up with something ruin the hat? And how is it a "gimmick". It's a design choice for demo's multiclass cosmetics. In the end it's up to the creator if they want it or not, but not having it, especially in this case seems just lazy.
MineFurryLPs 24 Oct, 2017 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by nomorevideos:
Originally posted by extraram.exe is not responding:
The one-eyed gimmick doesn't work 90% of the time, and to be honest it ruins a lot of reletively okay items because of that gimmick
How does removing an eye or covering it up with something ruin the hat? And how is it a "gimmick". It's a design choice for demo's multiclass cosmetics. In the end it's up to the creator if they want it or not, but not having it, especially in this case seems just lazy.
It seems lazy to just remove an eye from the comsetic and in this case the hat is supposed to represent Cappy from the new mario game coming out in 3 days and it would look right with just one eye or having it covered up
El Espantaviejas  [developer] 24 Oct, 2017 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by nomorevideos:
Originally posted by extraram.exe is not responding:
The one-eyed gimmick doesn't work 90% of the time, and to be honest it ruins a lot of reletively okay items because of that gimmick
How does removing an eye or covering it up with something ruin the hat? And how is it a "gimmick". It's a design choice for demo's multiclass cosmetics. In the end it's up to the creator if they want it or not, but not having it, especially in this case seems just lazy.

"Seems just lazy"

It would take me like about 20 secs to delete that pupil and upload it without it, but I just won't. This magical hat was on a fantastic magical adventure where it traveled through many fantastic and dreamy worlds while the disastrous Monoculus Event occured that left our favourite drunk scottish demolitions expert with just one eye.

PS: I don't like the missing eye trend, I am sorry.
Last edited by El Espantaviejas; 24 Oct, 2017 @ 12:14pm
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by MineFurryLPs:
Originally posted by nomorevideos:
How does removing an eye or covering it up with something ruin the hat? And how is it a "gimmick". It's a design choice for demo's multiclass cosmetics. In the end it's up to the creator if they want it or not, but not having it, especially in this case seems just lazy.
It seems lazy to just remove an eye from the comsetic and in this case the hat is supposed to represent Cappy from the new mario game coming out in 3 days and it would look right with just one eye or having it covered up
I do know what the hat is supposed to represent. And no. Not removing an eye and/or covering it up with a patch would be lazy. Or rather, it would me missing out on the chance of having some extra detail and thought put into the hat.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/4/4a/Demoman_virtual_viewfinder.png/600px-Demoman_virtual_viewfinder.png?t=20130711234642

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/thumb/9/90/Demo_Seal_Mask.png/737px-Demo_Seal_Mask.png?t=20111215211715


Again, II don't even particularly care. I think the hat doesn't look good to begin with. I just suggested that if worn by the demoman, it should have an eye patch like other hats. It's a littl;e extra detail, that's it. If the guy who made the hat doesn't want that, it's his choice.
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Petachepas:
Originally posted by nomorevideos:
How does removing an eye or covering it up with something ruin the hat? And how is it a "gimmick". It's a design choice for demo's multiclass cosmetics. In the end it's up to the creator if they want it or not, but not having it, especially in this case seems just lazy.

"Seems just lazy"

It would take me like about 20 secs to delete that pupil and upload it without it, but I just won't. This magical hat was on a fantastic magical adventure where it traveled through many fantastic and dreamy worlds while the disastrous Monoculus Event occured that left our favourite drunk scottish demolitions expert with just one eye.

PS: I don't like the missing eye trend, I am sorry.
I do realize it wouldn't take long, but it still seems lazy if I am quite honest. If you wanna keep it with 2 eyes for demo, keep it like that. Your choice.

Other than that, if you want actual constructive criticism. I think the base of the hat looks kinda flat and overall the hat is lacking detail. It's hard to explain. The whole hat just looks very basic (looks like a plate with a bucket and some bands around it) and done quickly without putting too much thought into it.
I know making 3d models takes time and effort and I would struggle to make something even close to this without running into dozens of roadblocks, but I still think I am allowed to give you my honest feedback. I mean that's what the workshop is for, right?
Last edited by nomorevideos; 24 Oct, 2017 @ 12:43pm
El Espantaviejas  [developer] 24 Oct, 2017 @ 1:54pm 
Have you ever seen a cartoonish hat in your life?
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Petachepas:
Have you ever seen a cartoonish hat in your life?
That's not my problem. My problem is that the hat lacks "detail". I don't wanna sound rude, I honestly don't, but for me this hat looks like someone just threw together a bunch of basic shapes in blender. The base or whatever you call it looks simply flat. There is nothing to it, if you look at other hats like the gibus the base and other parts of the hat actually has some structure and details to it.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/0e/Painted_Ghostly_Gibus_UNPAINTED.png?t=20121116234419
Then you have a cylinder on top. And that cylinder has a few tubes around it with some ovals as eyes.
I do realize that's the basic idea of the hat. A top hat with some goofy looking eyes. My issue with it is how it looks. It's plain, it has no character to it. The shapes the hat is composed of are all plain. The cylinder seems just straight and plain.
Again, I don't wanna insult you or your work, I've looked at your other submissions and they're pretty good. But this one honestly looked like you needed to meet a deadline and threw this hat together in like an hour in blender.
dankdurag 24 Oct, 2017 @ 2:33pm 
That'd be another reason to not download the skin and vote "YES" for it to somehow get into the game.
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Spooky Guy Named Dead___:
That'd be another reason to not download the skin and vote "YES" for it to somehow get into the game.
I haven't voted at all yet to be honest.
El Espantaviejas  [developer] 24 Oct, 2017 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by nomorevideos:
Originally posted by Petachepas:
Have you ever seen a cartoonish hat in your life?
That's not my problem. My problem is that the hat lacks "detail". I don't wanna sound rude, I honestly don't, but for me this hat looks like someone just threw together a bunch of basic shapes in blender. The base or whatever you call it looks simply flat. There is nothing to it, if you look at other hats like the gibus the base and other parts of the hat actually has some structure and details to it.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/0e/Painted_Ghostly_Gibus_UNPAINTED.png?t=20121116234419
Then you have a cylinder on top. And that cylinder has a few tubes around it with some ovals as eyes.
I do realize that's the basic idea of the hat. A top hat with some goofy looking eyes. My issue with it is how it looks. It's plain, it has no character to it. The shapes the hat is composed of are all plain. The cylinder seems just straight and plain.
Again, I don't wanna insult you or your work, I've looked at your other submissions and they're pretty good. But this one honestly looked like you needed to meet a deadline and threw this hat together in like an hour in blender.

There is no insult, i didn't even modeled the hat. But I think you are missing the point of the item. It is not just a top hat. It is a cartoonish-inspierd-in-something-you-may-know hat. If something has a simpler style or shape doesn't mean it's lazy or bad.
nomorevideos 24 Oct, 2017 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Petachepas:
Originally posted by nomorevideos:
That's not my problem. My problem is that the hat lacks "detail". I don't wanna sound rude, I honestly don't, but for me this hat looks like someone just threw together a bunch of basic shapes in blender. The base or whatever you call it looks simply flat. There is nothing to it, if you look at other hats like the gibus the base and other parts of the hat actually has some structure and details to it.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/0e/Painted_Ghostly_Gibus_UNPAINTED.png?t=20121116234419
Then you have a cylinder on top. And that cylinder has a few tubes around it with some ovals as eyes.
I do realize that's the basic idea of the hat. A top hat with some goofy looking eyes. My issue with it is how it looks. It's plain, it has no character to it. The shapes the hat is composed of are all plain. The cylinder seems just straight and plain.
Again, I don't wanna insult you or your work, I've looked at your other submissions and they're pretty good. But this one honestly looked like you needed to meet a deadline and threw this hat together in like an hour in blender.

There is no insult, i didn't even modeled the hat. But I think you are missing the point of the item. It is not just a top hat. It is a cartoonish-inspierd-in-something-you-may-know hat. If something has a simpler style or shape doesn't mean it's lazy or bad.
Again, I do realize that and there is nothing wrong with that. There are other items in TF2 that are similarly cartoonish. My honest feedback is that the hat looks pretty plain and without much fluff to it, just a cylinder with a base and some eyes held up by bands. For me personally it's really mostly the base that makes it look plain.
Maybe it's because I have bad eyes for this sorta stuff or maybe it's because the pictures don't do it justice and it looks much better ingame. Either way, that's just my dumb opinion, if the majority of people like it then there isn't really a problem here.
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