how about granades have very little (or no) drop and explode on impact
+200% projectile speed
+200% reload time
-75% magazine size
+50% damage

+55% damage
-40% magazine size
-25% clip size
+225% projectile speed
+150% reload time

+35% dmg
-75% clip size
+100% blast radius
takes twice as long to reload
grenades have little bounce

Are we just trying to make a more powerful, yet slower, loch 'n load here?

Looks good, but perhaps a little too OP.
+ xx% longer range → Projectile speed = Range, unless ur talking about bounce distance
+ xx% projectile speed → +10%
+ xx% (maybe up to 50) more damage→ +15%
- xx% clipsize (just one shot)→ Good idea, and this would be -75% clip size for the just one shot.

My recommendation is to add:
-50% Blast radius
+35% Reload time
+20% weapon switch time
Will be too op if you keep speed and dmg. Then people will just swarm with this. Not ideal if you want good feedback if it's accepted and it's put ig.

Oprindeligt skrevet af CombustableLemons:

Are we just trying to make a more powerful, yet slower, loch 'n load here?

Kinda looks like what it'll be if we don't change the stats they're hoping to keep.

+100% projectile speed
+50% blast radius
+100% max primary ammo

-25% dmg
-granade doesn't work without hit on walls and rolls on d-impact

Remember guys, it's a musket, not a nuke. So increased blast radius makes no sense. Now, I don't have much of an idea for stats atm, but this is what I think fits it as for guidelines:

Pros:
- XX% Damage Boost
- XX% Faster Projectile Speed

Cons:
- XX% Smaller Clip Size
- XX% Blast Radius
- XX% Clip Size

The Musketeer's Musket
Grenade Musket
(+) +15% Damage Bonus
(-) -99% Clip Size
(-) -10% Projectile Speed
(=) Fires Special Grenades that have the spread that of a Shotgun
(=) On hit: Leaves a large smoke trail where the spread was

Pros:
+100% Blast Radius
+ 50% Damage On Direct Hit With Target
Explodes On Contact

Cons:
- 90% Clip Size
Does Not Explode On Contact From Tagets Closer Than 5 Meters

Similar to a real grenade launcher.

+20% damage bonus
+20% faster projectile speed

-75% clip size
-20% explosion radius

Grenades explode on surfaces

+Shoots 5 arcing explosive pellets in a wide spread
Each pellet deals 40 dmg (total of 200, no falloff/ramp-up)
+50% knockback (on yourself and enemy)
+Projectiles explode on impact

-50% explosion radius
-75% clip size

Think the grenade pistol from KF2 in both usage and pellet spread. This is designed to make a nice crowd control weapon, good for clearing a control point or a cart, dealing minor damage and major knockback in a large area. It also makes it possible to essentially rocket jump, but at twice the cost of a grenade jump.

Pros:
20% Increased damage.
20% charge refill on kill.
After firing, 20% increased move speed. as long as there's no ammo left.

Cons:
Dropped after firing. This means that it can only fire once, and can only be restored by respawning or using the Ressuply locker.

Lol for a second I thought you stole my sniper musket idea but yeah this is lit

Level XX Grenade Launcher
Positives:
+50% damage vs players (150)
+100% projectile speed
Negatives:
-75% clip size (from 4 to 1)
-100% slower reload speed (from first 1.24 to 2.48 sec and consecutive 0.6 to 1.2 sec)
-90% explosion radius