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man that vid is so usefull!

@CCCanyon, I shall link that vid whenever people ask now, will save me explaining haha

Hey I stack wheels by 7/8 like this:
https://youtu.be/IowOUBdNXT4?t=33s

thank you very much! :D

@Acually Is Dolan, they are 1/4 + 1/10th block offset, if you use just 1/4 the engines will explode at high speed, learnt that during testing. Use a wing panel block to get 1/4. Use the steering block for 1/10th. Then use the symmetry tool, to and the fps glitch to place the motor wheels on an offset block.

how did you stacked the motor wheels for the engine so close to each other without mods?

Skin packs are part of the game imo, since the game doesn't require a mod to load them

@HamsterIII: Honestly, you wouldn't believe how many people argue over how to pitch on a plane, and half the planes are down key is to go up, and the other half are vice-versa. Moral of the story: Get used to it or stop complaining and change the thing itself.

your pitch is backwards, and i don't like it

Ah, well I though you could put things under recommended it the workshop item uploader.

@LurchingRex0667, there isn't a recommended option, only lets you put required. I put the skinpacks there so people can download them all in one go, with the build, rather than subscribing one by one, it makes it easier for those who wish to use them. You can see it works fine without the skinpacks, they are purely cosmetic.

Then why did you mark them as required instead of recommended?

@LurchingRex0667, skinpacks.......

The required items are other mods though...

@EveryoneWhoThinksItIsn'tVanilla: Guys, if you think it isn't vanilla, go to page four, then three when you're done with page four.

I KNOW WHAT VANILLA MEANS!!! NO MODS . I'm flattered you guys think this plane is good enough to pass for modded, but honestly, no mods were used. I don't know how to say it in any other way. It simply is vanilla. No mods, no bsg editting, all in game building techniques.

Vanilla means no mods, soooooooooooo pretty sure jamin is right here... I stilll like the plane, but seems like false advertisement.

@jamin65116511, Well you're wrong, dunno what to tell you. It is, end of.

this is not vannila

I do plan on making a large bomber, I'm going to limit myself to the bounding box as usual, so I'll have to use folding wings. I did have a grumman greyhound, I was working on but the save file got wiped. But yes, plans for a big plane of some sort in the future.

How about a B25? It'd make all the peasants in Besiege crap their pants when they see that . It might not fit in the bounding box, though...

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@Brooka Thank you, appreciated ;)

@solcat2, cheers man!!

It is possible to build like that in vanilla, i have built lots of things without mods. There are tricks to move Parts the way you want them. Looks nice Brooka btw :D

@Magnum Dong / Kojote 3, thank you, great name btw!

Nice Technique there! I like people with a lot of talent like you, this is defnitely one of the best Besiege machines I have seen for a long time. Keep up the good work! ;)

Idk what to tell you people, it's not scaled, it's not built with mods. If I was gonna mod, why wouldn't I? It would be very easy for me to make the whole body scaled and rotated, I wouldn't need as many blocks, it would look better, I could make the wings a better shape. If any of you are actual vanilla builders it's very clearly possible in the game, look at Salsamage and his machines, very similar techniques. No mods, all the propellers are connected, delete the connecting points, instead of saying it's not vanilla, why not take apart my build as see how it's built?

Not counting the following: Easyscale mod to scale objects, Skin-Packs.

"No mods used = vanilla" I have a hard time seeing this personally, not because the skin packs, but how the facads are short propeller blades visibly connected to nothing

Hey could you make a B17 bomber in the future? I wanna bomb some peasants!

Ahhh right haha

Oh lol I'm just dumb, I was looking at these blades but instead they were actually propellars so it looked liked 35 degrees blades.

@123456jahejd91-;s,ctqudhqla0dp1. Can you be more specific? Which parts are you talking about? The body of the plane is all flat at simulation, when you turn on the engines, there are steering hinges holding the bodywork, which tilt creating the curves, is that what you mean?

How did you get the blocks not in a 90 degrees formation?

@scabeiathax, thank you very much. Haha yeah I understand what people mean, when they say skinpacks may count as mods, I personally disagree, but yes, they are typically 3rd party add-ons. But as you said, purely aesthetic. Construction is 100% vanilla.

Works really well, good job, too bad im terrible at flying :( (though crashing is just as fun)

Also: In response to the "it not vanilla!!!" crowd: there is case to be made that skinpacks are mods. However install it without mods/skins and you will find that it works fine, functionaly, technically, emotionaly, philosophicaly and unequivocally vanilla.

@Ross Plavsic, thank you Ross, nice job getting the 38 special to do the other levels too! If they add four more levels you could rename it to the 44 special hehe

Awesome! It's easy to get a really smooth landing, even if you keep the bombs on it.

Also, the developers intentionally made it so that skin packs can be edited, so it's still vanilla with skin packs. Not that it matters, since cosmetics don't affect performance anyway.

@EatThatPie: I just find it annoying that in the past couple dozen or so conversations I've had, people end up using "technically" when it isn't even appropriate. Then, they proceed to shove me through the meat grinder of awful reasoning. You, like most of the other people I've chatted with in the last 48 hours, have the reasoning power of a large, steel block.

@EatThatPie: Got that through your skull?!

@EatThatPie, the construction of the craft is vanilla. I don't know what you want from me? If you don't want to use skinpacks, don't. Its as simple as that, skinpacks are purely visual.

@EatThatPie: Oh, my god. TECHNICALLY?! VANILLA MEANS YOU DIDN'T CHANGE THE CODE! YOU'RE LITERALLY JUST CHANGING FRICKING LOOKS!!! MODS IN BESIEGE HELP YOU BUILD STUFF! SKINPACKS ARE MEANT TO MAKE THINGS LOOK NICER! THEY DON'T HELP YOU BUILD MACHINES!

@ShadowApprentice, well said. Sorry if I'm a bit irritable guys, you folks constantly ask for more vanilla creations on the workshop, then when people make them, about 1/3 comments say its not vanilla. These building techniques aren't new, they've been around for ages now.

@EatThatPie: Seriously? Vanilla is no mods. Mods add or change the game's coding, while skinpacks add new models (models, not collisions) or change the skins (what it looks like) of existing blocks, entities, etc. Do you get it now?

@EatThatPie, so??? Since when the fuck are skinpacks mods?? If you don't want to use skinpacks. DON'T USE THEM. ITS VANILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Lookpro, no, all the curves on this plane are made with propellers which are already curved, I then use steering hinges to bend them. Thats why the plane is all square at the start of simulation.

so you can rotate with symmetry ?